Pompey got less points deducted for going into liquidation!Look im not sitying here and saying we have done nothing wrong but there are mitigating factors.
1. We took a huge loss on an expensive player due to a police investigation. Not the clubs fault.
2. We had sponsorship deals lined up that fell through due to the Ukraine war and sanctions.
3. We used our own money to put towards a new stadium instead of taking out a loan with interest.
I get that point 2 you could say well this can happen to anyone but nobody expected the invasion.
Unlike the FL, the PL has no guidance or rules in place for a breach of P&S. It sets a precedent as they have just made up the punishment on the spot with a note that due to a billionaire owner, only a points deduction is punishment. So if our owner wasnt a billionaire, a fine would have done it?
How can you enforce a punishment when there are no guidelines for the punishment.
Also we have been punished more than teams who go into Administration.
I've not looked into the breakdown of why ffp was failed but even with the incidents you could label as extenuating circumstances such as those mentioned above, everton will have known they were going to fail well before the figures were published. They undoubtedly would have seeked advice on whether there was any leeway available for those special circumstances and upon discovering they were still going to break the rules surely they then just use the transfer market to make sure they comply?
Ha, the butterfly effect. The PL have now created a monster of litigation for themselves. This won't end well.If Everton’s ten points deduction was applied last season, how many teams would have finished one place higher and thus gained extra income from the premier league position payment?
Pompey got less points deducted for going into liquidation!
Look im not sitying here and saying we have done nothing wrong but there are mitigating factors.
1. We took a huge loss on an expensive player due to a police investigation. Not the clubs fault.
2. We had sponsorship deals lined up that fell through due to the Ukraine war and sanctions.
3. We used our own money to put towards a new stadium instead of taking out a loan with interest.
I get that point 2 you could say well this can happen to anyone but nobody expected the invasion.
Unlike the FL, the PL has no guidance or rules in place for a breach of P&S. It sets a precedent as they have just made up the punishment on the spot with a note that due to a billionaire owner, only a points deduction is punishment. So if our owner wasnt a billionaire, a fine would have done it?
How can you enforce a punishment when there are no guidelines for the punishment.
Also we have been punished more than teams who go into Administration.
In summary. You are cheats.Look im not sitying here and saying we have done nothing wrong but there are mitigating factors.
1. We took a huge loss on an expensive player due to a police investigation. Not the clubs fault.
2. We had sponsorship deals lined up that fell through due to the Ukraine war and sanctions.
3. We used our own money to put towards a new stadium instead of taking out a loan with interest.
I get that point 2 you could say well this can happen to anyone but nobody expected the invasion.
Unlike the FL, the PL has no guidance or rules in place for a breach of P&S. It sets a precedent as they have just made up the punishment on the spot with a note that due to a billionaire owner, only a points deduction is punishment. So if our owner wasnt a billionaire, a fine would have done it?
How can you enforce a punishment when there are no guidelines for the punishment.
Also we have been punished more than teams who go into Administration.
If point 2 can be proved, then it's a disgrace.Look im not sitying here and saying we have done nothing wrong but there are mitigating factors.
1. We took a huge loss on an expensive player due to a police investigation. Not the clubs fault.
2. We had sponsorship deals lined up that fell through due to the Ukraine war and sanctions.
3. We used our own money to put towards a new stadium instead of taking out a loan with interest.
I get that point 2 you could say well this can happen to anyone but nobody expected the invasion.
Unlike the FL, the PL has no guidance or rules in place for a breach of P&S. It sets a precedent as they have just made up the punishment on the spot with a note that due to a billionaire owner, only a points deduction is punishment. So if our owner wasnt a billionaire, a fine would have done it?
How can you enforce a punishment when there are no guidelines for the punishment.
Also we have been punished more than teams who go into Administration.
But Everton went on a spending spree there wasnt any proper planning, it was like a lottery winner, madness I feel for the fans who are the ones to suffer. Clubs who were relegated have a just claim against Everton as they abided by FFP I’m sure they would also like to have a shiny new stadium to help increase they turnover but couldn’t afford itOne of the arguments is about player sales. Covid affected the market and market rate of players. We would have been budgeting for sales but we either couldnt sell or lost money.
Now I know you can say the same for all teams but we were close to the edge anyway then covid hit, which nobody on earth could have predicted. It just compounded the issue.
Yeah, all the blue clubs stick together, fook you reds.Rather than trying to drag us and others down with them by bitching about monitoring other cases, wouldn’t Everton be better served trying to get other clubs like us and Chelsea on side?
If this is correct then surely if the punishment is a fine for one it should be a fine for all maybe the billionaire owned clubs should be fined moreIt sets a precedent as they have just made up the punishment on the spot with a note that due to a billionaire owner, only a points deduction is punishment. So if our owner wasnt a billionaire, a fine would have done it?
Let's not start this "it sets a precedent purely so they can do us" story. This has nothing to do with city and the premier league aren't punishing everton to make it easier to come for us it's as stupid of an argument as those comparing the two completely separate cases.
Question that needs to be asked is everton will have been fully aware they were on course to fail ffp so why did they not just look to sell somebody in the window to cover the near £20 million overspend? One sale prevents this.
If this is correct then surely if the punishment is a fine for one it should be a fine for all maybe the billionaire owned clubs should be fined more
Basically no point fining a club with wealthy owners, so they had to go with points.
It’s irrelevant if they have no evidence to prove any wrongdoing.
Which is evidently the prerequisite for being found 'guilty'. At least it used to be. Who knows nowadays ?It’s irrelevant if they have no evidence to prove any wrongdoing.
Probably the most interesting post of the day.Is this the start of the end of the pl ?
How it's recorded doesn't matter, it's all income for ffp in terms of reducing immediate losses.Doesn't work like that. All players have a value in the books and you have to sell for more than the value to report a profit. Big clubs tend to pay the most and have values higher than what they can get, it's like if rags sold maguire or Anthony what would they get? Probably less.
One of the arguments is about player sales. Covid affected the market and market rate of players. We would have been budgeting for sales but we either couldnt sell or lost money.
Now I know you can say the same for all teams but we were close to the edge anyway then covid hit, which nobody on earth could have predicted. It just compounded the issue.