So in laymen’s terms if they did have a similar metric to the 1 suggested by the premier league to that suggested by the prem off 6 plus 1 per 5mill they could do 1 of 2 things.The vast majority know very little about FFP and even less about our charges (or Everton's). Even if we were found "guilty" of all the charges, we're talking about probably £12.5m per year. I thought it was slightly more but Reuters estimated the image rights as £10m, whereas I thought it was around £17m. That's nowhere near enough to turn meeting the PL's FSR into failing them, as Everton did.
And none of our charges post-date 2018, so for the last five years, while we've won all these trophies under Pep, there's been no problem.
We'd probably being around even money for the league even in this scenarioSo in laymen’s terms if they did have a similar metric to the 1 suggested by the premier league to that suggested by the prem off 6 plus 1 per 5mill they could do 1 of 2 things.
6 points per year for 6 years plus 3 points for each of those seasons so 54 points or 6 points for failing plus 6x12.5 giving you 75, decided by 5 equalling a further 15 points so a total of 21 point deduction?
I don’t think so as some of those years we were at close to the limit for lossesWe'd probably being around even money for the league even in this scenario
And if that’s what the premier league are alleging,then even if we are found guilty over just non cooperation,surely the club would have grounds to claim compensation over false claims of fraud and wrongdoing ..Watching that YouTube clip posted earlier, and I'm once again struck that Stefan is just about the only person on the whole British media landscape who knows what he's talking about in relation to this case.
His point that this is either truly one of the great corporate accounting scandals or the PL have unknowingly overstepped its authority is a comfort tbh. I don't thinkt they have the evidence to prove what they have alleged, and if they have then we need to accept our punishment.
United failed UEFA FFP but have not been charged by the PL yet. I don't think any of the others have failed UEFA FFP, for various reasons including falling out of UEFA competitions for certain years.but about 8 of the charges are for not complying with UEFA FFP rules. So by that definition alone United, Liverpool, Leicester, Everton and anyone else who couldn't pass UEFA FFP should be charged as well
An out of context email trail used to deliberately and actively destroy the club is not proportionate to the abuse and punishment we have received via the media, Uefa and now the premier. The alleged crime was quashed at CAS. No evidence of any wrong doing.Of course not. Let's be clear, the only reason this investigation came about was because of the Football Leaks emails, for which we only have ourselves to blame.
I know a number of Everton. The club are a complete shambles and rotten to the core. The points deduction hasn’t surprised them.
Absolutely. Certain clubs are registered in tax havens begging the question as to why when all are supposed to be operating to the same PL financial rules?Side issue: I would expect the independent regulator to ban clubs from registering offshore. Note both City and CFG are British registered companies.
Part of me feels a bit sorry for them, but the other 99% of me thinks they can get to fuck.
We became suspicious of the governing bodies when sensitive information was leaked that could only have been leaked by the investigators in the charges brought by UEFA. Complying with requests for information from investigators is fine, and part and parcel of being in their competitions but it seems like the PL were taking the piss by continually asking for information so we called it out and said that the requests then needed to be done via legally auditable processes. If I recall correctly. Just covering our backsides really, but the narrative is that we suddenly became obstructive with no reason.Have we as a Club at any point said enoughs enough, here is the evidence we haven't done any of this, get it sorted now or have we genuinely delayed things? That seems to be the rhetoric now, that we consistently delay and put blocks in the way, I'd rather it was sorted once and for all personally and if guilty fair enough, it's totally sapping any enjoyment of football when all anyone wants to talk about is us cheating, it's boring the living daylights out of me in fact.
Anyone got the feeling Everton are going to do our dirty work for us and show it all up to be a shame and mud slinging exercise
Pl have shot themselves in foot again
My first thought when I read through the Bobby Manc docs was why didn’t city just draw up sub contract agreement and charge the Abu Dhabi team Bobbys fee plus a 10% commission?Of course not. Let's be clear, the only reason this investigation came about was because of the Football Leaks emails, for which we only have ourselves to blame.
I'd hope we'd be robust in our response, but I'm not sure what it is people think we can do to go on the offensive. There are rumours percolating about Khaldoon having 'dirt' on all and sundry, but I think the idea we can 'go nuclear' is speculative at best.Pretty sure we’d go ‘nuclear’ if the PL did also. Our reaction would be absolutely thunderous and all out attack. I’m hopefully a new regulator would give us the path to blow the PL away in the courts.
Tolmie also made the point on Twitter about how would the TV companies around the world react if City weren’t in the league. Imagine booting out Guardiola and Haaland when they’ve just spent a billion on TV rights.
Their legal people probably get paid more than their person tweeting shit out.It still makes no sense that they got the charges wrong. You’d think when they are advising they are looking at the year book & the allegation.
You’d also think they’d say CAS over ruled because of this, so it’s unlikely & a reason they didn’t move forward for 4 years.
Also the sheer volume of charges is vindictive & inconsistent. If you want someone nailed & quickly you wouldn’t create head aches for yourself. It would be like throwing charges of “fly tipping” at Peter Sutcliffe.
It took the PL about 6 years to notice our UEFA FFP issues, so their breech will probably be looked at in 2030, or so.If united failed ffp under eufa rules and were fined, why aren't the PL looking at that as well? Not in a sarcastic way, but genuinely why aren't they? Were their losses not enough to fail PL ffp?
Do you have a link to it?They did fail the PL rule that says you have to comply with UEFA FFP though.
It's not just speculative, it's pure BlueAnon 'the storm is coming' bullshit.I'd hope we'd be robust in our response, but I'm not sure what it is people think we can do to go on the offensive. There are rumours percolating about Khaldoon having 'dirt' on all and sundry, but I think the idea we can 'go nuclear' is speculative at best.