Atmosphere - 2023/24

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EastMidlandsBlue said:
Why should the loyal fans have to make up the numbers for games with less demand, but as soon as a big game comes around they're immediately turfed out for people with big wallets.

I agree that some agencies do work on their own, however I've seen too much to believe that the club doesn't work directly with these agencies.

I've said it before, but at Arsenal away this year there were 20 people on holiday from China, whose tickets were part of the holiday package. These 20 tickets were all together in a block.

You can't tell me that 20 tickets together in the away end has nothing to do with the club
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I agree with what you’re saying. There are large numbers of tickets being given to ticket agencies. There are rows of seats that are always greyed out and often they are filled with day trippers or in lots of cases, away fans. It’s the same for away games. The club are clearly involved.

For some of our biggest games ordinary fans can’t get tickets or these seats are often empty because of this. There’s no transparency from the club on this.

Personally I think it’s a joke and we need to speak out against the club on this
 
Didsbury Dave said:
Eh? I'm not talking about our away support. I'm talking about NEwcastle's home support which you basiclly said "Why can't we be like them?". I'm pointing out that they are not the hotbed of noise you made them out to be and that just a couple of months ago their stadium was silent for our visit until late in the game when they were chasing the win.

Just like our stadium actually.
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I bumped into a few match going Geordies the week after the Liverpool match, they mentioned Peps comments and highlighted similar issues at their ground since the takeover.

Ive said it before the Etihad is as good as anywhere on its day, sure for some matches it would be great if it was better, but no ground or fans in the Premier league is markedly if at all better.
 
Didsbury Dave said:
They are also currently riding the first wave of success that their new owners have brought, like us 10-12 years ago. But even thentheir stadium, like STamford Bridge or Anfield or Old Trafford, is quiet for some games and loud for others. Our stadium can be too quiet at times but so can all the other big ones. As fans we often get on a bit of a "bad run" mid-season like the team, especailly when new songs are spreading.

My Liverpool mate was at Anfield at the weekend and he said it was like a morgue for 88 minutes and like a cauldron for 5 minutes. That sounds familiar to me.
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Yep totally agree with all of that. Its all new and exciting for newc

Our atmosphere is second to none when it really needs to be. This part of the season is the grind part. Keep in touch with the leaders. Not a lot to get giddy about.
Come feb/march when in the past we have started to hit title winning form , our fans kick in too.

The games v arsenal and Real were fuckin electric atmospheres. As good as ive experienced
 
Otamendi's Beard said:
What is currently stopping the local fans who have season tickets from singing?

Forget about tourists, prices, etc, etc. if we want to improve the atmosphere, we need to understand why thousands (upon thousands) of people choose to be quieter than a mouse fart.

Pep demands noise, we all want it.

But, unfortunately, we have to accept that at least 50% of people just turn up to be entertained and not get involved.

I wonder what the average age of season ticket holders is...
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Exactly, on a side note im in 119 its the younger ones who don't sing, I've been singing my heart out for 50 years backing the blues, some of these young ones need a kick up the arse !!!
 
Brightwell Bros. said:
Honestly, I'm sympathetic to various degrees on all these points. The only one I'm unsure of is the ticket agency stuff, I don't think it's the club doing that, but everything else I agree on. Not defending the club at all, I just don't like some of the "local club for local people" tone of some of the earlier posts as I think the atmosphere debate is a lot more nuanced than that.
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Whether the club are actively passing tickets to the agency’s or simply turning a blind eye to them getting their hands on them I don’t know, either way City are to a greater or lesser extent complicit in it.

Personally I don’t care where people come from to watch us as long as they buy tickets through the official channels and meet what should be a more stringent criteria for the bigger games.
 
Didsbury Dave said:
You said "Why do Newcastle fans support, sing, and create an atmosphere in all 4 of stands and we don’t, bar for the biggest games like Arsenal and Real Madrid last season?".

I pointed out that they are no different, and used the example of the recent cup game we played there. The same applied to the league game the season before too.

Nobody disagrees with the rest of your post which is just obfuscation.
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I did? I'll go back and recheck my exact wording on the post.

This is part of what I posted in the post, if this is the part of the post you are referring to?

Why do Newcastle fans support, sing, and create an atmosphere in all 4 stands and we don’t, bar for the biggest games like Arsenal and Real Madrid last season?

I didn't post..... 'why can’t we be like Newcastle fans’, which you said I posted.

(In my opinion, Newcastle fans do give their team more support, more often, from four stands, than we give City from four stands.)

Again it's a matter of opinion. We'll never agree on that point, so let's agree to disagree, otherwise we will be going around in circles.

There is no denying our supporters in SSL1(mainly), 111, 110, 109 and SSL3 give great support as a rule. I would like the other supporters in other parts of the 4 stands to join in more often. That's all I'm saying. I don't think there's anything wrong with that fair and honest observation.

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What I've been posting has been clear, to the point, and understandable.

Hopefully with a run of relatively easy home games coming up, goals, and wins, our home support will pickup again and get back to what it was last season and at the start of this season.

I'm looking forward to hearing our away support tonight, which we can all agree on is one of the best away supports in the PL. :-)
 
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jrb said:
I did? I'll go back and recheck my exact wording on the post.

This is part of what I posted in the post, if this is the part of the post you are referring to?

Why do Newcastle fans support, sing, and create an atmosphere in all 4 stands and we don’t, bar for the biggest games like Arsenal and Real Madrid last season?

I didn't post..... 'why can’t we be like Newcastle fans’, which you said I posted.

(In my opinion, Newcastle fans do give their team more support, more often, from four stands, than we give City from four stands.)

Again it's a matter of opinion. We'll never agree on that point, so let's agree to disagree, otherwise we will be going around in circles.

There is no denying our supporters in SSL1(mainly), 111, 110, 109 and SSL3 give great support as a rule. I would like the other supporters in other parts of the 4 stands to join in more often. That's all I'm saying. I don't think there's anything wrong with that fair and honest observation.



What I've been posting has been clear, to the point, and understandable.

Hopefully with a run of relatively easy home games coming up, goals, and wins, our home support will pickup again and get back to what it was last season and at the start of this season.

I'm looking forward to hearing our away support tonight, which we can all agree on is one of the best away supports in the PL. :-)
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Hope we've got daft inflatable champs league trophies...................not
 
Totally agree that the atmosphere was good at many games last season. And fantastic at games that mattered.

But this season has been dreadful.

Not been to one home game this season where I thought the atmosphere was anything but garbage.

The 3 x champs league and the big home league games against LFC and Spurs all crap.

Maybe it will improve as the season progresses - but it feels different this season. My block is all season ticket yet it’s full of international strangers with half and half’s every week.

From recollection I’ve never had to ask somebody to get out my seat in 30+ years of having a season ticket at Maine Road and the Etihad - this season I’ve had to tell an international friend to sling it 3 times this season already !!!
 
Now is the time the lads really need our support. There’s a load of hiding behind “tourists” and “corporate” excuses on here. If everyone who can, sang loud and proud, the Etihad would be rocking.

The atmosphere was good a lot of the time last season so the common denominator this season is complacency amongst our fan base. I know some of you want to blame the tram lol.
 
Otamendi's Beard said:
What is currently stopping the local fans who have season tickets from singing?

Forget about tourists, prices, etc, etc. if we want to improve the atmosphere, we need to understand why thousands (upon thousands) of people choose to be quieter than a mouse fart.

Pep demands noise, we all want it.

But, unfortunately, we have to accept that at least 50% of people just turn up to be entertained and not get involved.

I wonder what the average age of season ticket holders is...
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The average age of season ticket holders is about 362 and most keep their season tickets because they watched years of utter dross and don't want to give up while we're winning. The football is their reward and they shout support rather than singing.
I'm 66 and spent 90 minutes at the swamp derby singing with everybody else, but it's often silent where I sit (north end of the East Stand) so I only join in when chants go round the ground. I have a great view but am considering moving to the expanded north stand to get more involved.
 
Tim of the Oak said:
Now is the time the lads really need our support. There’s a load of hiding behind “tourists” and “corporate” excuses on here. If everyone who can, sang loud and proud, the Etihad would be rocking.

The atmosphere was good a lot of the time last season so the common denominator this season is complacency amongst our fan base. I know some of you want to blame the tram lol.
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Agree with this.

The tourists aren’t the reason for the poor atmosphere most of the time. It’s people like me and you who have been going for 40 years. The majority of our fans don’t raise their voice once during a game and when they do we are 3-0.

It was always the same. I have 30 years of Maine Road under my belt and know that. The difference now is that we are watching our most successful team ever but we still give excuses for our often lazy support.
 
Mike N said:
Agree with this.

The tourists aren’t the reason for the poor atmosphere most of the time. It’s people like me and you who have been going for 40 years. The majority of our fans don’t raise their voice once during a game and when they do we are 3-0.

It was always the same. I have 30 years of Maine Road under my belt and know that. The difference now is that we are watching our most successful team ever but we still give excuses for our often lazy support.
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Spot on Mike. These are our greatest times. Maine Road could be rocking one week and quiet the next. It was hard to fathom.

It’s enough for me for Pep to say we need to be louder. This great team deserves louder support.
 
RE: Concerts / Theatre. These are more one off events. I’ve never seen the Manic Street Preachers and I’ve seen Morrissey once. I’d watch neither 19 times a year.
 
Tim of the Oak said:
Now is the time the lads really need our support. There’s a load of hiding behind “tourists” and “corporate” excuses on here. If everyone who can, sang loud and proud, the Etihad would be rocking.

The atmosphere was good a lot of the time last season so the common denominator this season is complacency amongst our fan base. I know some of you want to blame the tram lol.
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3 stands have barely made a peep for 10 years so that ain’t ever changing.

Silent for the game then fuck off with 10 mins to go regardless of the result.

At least the tourists stay till the end - although that is probably to do with them filming the match in it entirety on their IPAD.
 
Prophet of Doom said:
3 stands have barely made a peep for 10 years so that ain’t ever changing.

Silent for the game then fuck off with 10 mins to go regardless of the result.

At least the tourists stay till the end - although that is probably to do with them filming the match in it entirety on their IPAD.
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I’ve said this before but some of the best atmospheres we’ve had (like last season’s big Champs League nights),some chants went around the ground that started in the North Stand.

I thinks there people making an effort in all the stands. Just not enough of them.
 
Tim of the Oak said:
I’ve said this before but some of the best atmospheres we’ve had (like last season’s big Champs League nights),some chants went around the ground that started in the North Stand.

I thinks there people making an effort in all the stands. Just not enough of them.
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The odd thing is that the semi against Madrid probably had more tourists than any other game we’ve ever played there. It felt like every ‘old-school’ blue in the ground contributed and made it a fantastic atmosphere.
 
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