PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

chaddblue said:
No point being concerned about peoples opinions if we are cleared

Even if the PL came out and stated that City are 100% innocent and every single aspect of our finances are totally clean.... the public opinion would be that we've somehow forced the government to get the PL to back off or we've paid them off to clear us. The media won't say this directly but will imply it to brainwash the simpletons

All I'm bothered is that we're found innocent and afterwards I'll just laugh in the face of anybody who says otherwise
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Spot on. It’s beyond football fan rationale to look at it factually and say the PL got it wrong. It just isn’t in there to behave like that, and so the banter is thrown at us that we are cheats.
 
Paladin said:
The potential narrative that we got away with it, if this is how things eventually transpire, can easily be refuted.

If I am accused of murdering my wife, then my wife shows up at the police station alive and well, will I have got away with her murder?
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It’s impossible to say without photos mate, you know the rules.
 
eastmanc said:
Jordan proved yesterday that he believes in conspiracy theories. His take on City's 'charges ' are ridiculous, Stefan explained to him just how fanciful his belief of our guilt is.
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Even though Sheikh Mansour has comfortably made at least £3bn paper profit so far on his investments in City and the city of Manchester itself Jordan still claims his motivation for all this is “image washing.” He really is a moron when it comes to financial matters.
 
Prestwich_Blue said:
I don't believe I've said anything like that regarding the sponsorship deals. CAS showed comprehensively that they're completely above board, which I've always maintained. Yet the PL have chosen to base their case around these, which beggars belief given the CAS outcome.

What I might have said relates to the image rights payments to the players. My initial reaction to these was that these could be problematic, but since then I discovered that UEFA had brought these up in 2015, and the arrangement ended in 2018. UEFA obviously didn't charge us with anything relating to these so we must assume there was no significant issue with them.

What I've said is that these payments (to Mancini and the image rights) aren't significant. The Mancini ones had a contract to support them and came at a time when we were reporting hundreds of millions in losses. £1.75m is barely a drop in the ocean and couldn't possibly involve an attempt to get round FFP, as has been claimed.

The image rights payments from Fordham started about the time we sacked Mancini and are probably less than £15m a year. But we didn't try to hide these away in an unconnected company. We sold the IP to them, declared it our accounts and Fordham was linked to us on the Companies House website. You'd hardly need to be MI6 to work out there was a relationship, and it would have been done on expert legal and financial advice.
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Thanks for the clarification, PB. You have helped clear the muddle that passes for both my brain and memory these days! I think I was confusing image rights with sponsorship and I thank you for clarifying UEFA's positions on these. I presume the independent commission would be foolish to take a view different from UEFA and CAS. Thanks, it is much appreciated.
 
Stefan interview yesterday has 350.000 views while other talksport video have around 15.000 views at best.

What he said was huge and alot of people will see this for it really is maybe not Liverpool fans but other intelligence people.
It is my opinion that this yesterday is the best thing that has happened to City and telling there side of things since this thing happened 2018 with DER Spiegel.
 
I cannot believe Jordan this morning saying “ I think City have a case to answer” based on what Mr Jordan you know nowt. Based on what you would like to believe as no one knows what evidence of alleged wrong doing there is and certainly no one knows City’s defence to such allegations so him pontificating is just pure wishing it is so BS
 
I understand that the PL (and the pressure from certain clubs) have threw these charges at us, which basically accuse people who run our club and multi national companies to which these companies then deal with other huge multi national companies all over the world on various projects - but that PL are saying they have actually committed serious fraud on accounts

If and when we get cleared, surely our owners and the people within our club they are accusing would have to sue the PL for damages - wouldn't they

Like PD said on the talksport interview, regardless of which way this goes. The ramifications are huge and game changing
 
Pelegrinni said:
If the PL fails to prove their case, could there be a call for Richard Masters to publicly state why he pursued this line of action despite having little to no new evidence?
In other words, was undue pressure put on the PL to proceed with these charges?
If yes, then by whom?
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He‘ll simply be pensioned off like all the charmed sorts who head up these quangos and regulatory bodies and display absolute incompetence and inability to do their jobs, without ever being called to account.
He’ll be off to some lovely cottage in the country with a copper-bottomed enormous pension and never heard from again.
 
halfcenturyup said:
Publicly muted, cigars behind closed doors, and retribution in private over the next ten years.
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Revenge & retribution is guaranteed.

They may never know the cost....or there maybe a 'Mayor of Hiroshima' moment.

Our guys play the long,long game and their memories transcend generations.

Cool Hand Khaldoon will be checking the + cross hairs + and rubbing his hands !!
 
Bodicoteblue said:
He‘ll simply be pensioned off like all the charmed sorts who head up these quangos and regulatory bodies and display absolute incompetence and inability to do their jobs, without ever being called to account.
He’ll be off to some lovely cottage in the country with a copper-bottomed enormous pension and never heard from again.
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And once that plays out it will end game for the likes of the cartel scum who don't want the government independent review on running football to go through.

This all smells of a gameplay from the cartel, not just to get us sanctioned etc, but to keep the game in-house so they can manipulate its running
 
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