Chelsea Thread - 2023/24

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Alan Harper's Tash said:
For everyone else, yeah.

I don’t see anything, maybe barring free kick taking now he’s actually scored one, that Kovacic can’t do better.
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I know you think this but I love Enzo, I think he’s brilliant and want him to stay for many years.
 
Alan Harper's Tash said:
He’ll have to. He’s too expensive for anyone else to consider buying.
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Maybe right now but his path out of Chelsea would always have been Real Madrid or Barcelona anyway and Barca are broke and Real Madrid already have their midfield set for years to come.

So the moment he signed, even if he was a more reasonable £60m signing, I knew he would likely be here for the long haul as long as he plays well because there no other clubs worth leaving for really
 
Vialli98 said:
Maybe right now but his path out of Chelsea would always have been Real Madrid or Barcelona anyway and Barca are broke and Real Madrid already have their midfield set for years to come.

So the moment he signed, even if he was a more reasonable £60m signing, I knew he would likely be here for the long haul as long as he plays well because there no other clubs worth leaving for really
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That’s assuming you break into the top 10 of the league soon.

I can see a scenario where he’s at Inter on loan with no option to buy for 3 years.
 
Alan Harper's Tash said:
That’s assuming you break into the top 10 of the league soon.

I can see a scenario where he’s at Inter on loan with no option to buy for 3 years.
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You are funny :) Let's agree to disagree then. I think Enzo is fantastic, a brilliant talent, I love watching him and he's going to lead us back to the top again.
 
Alan Harper's Tash said:
I’m sure he’ll come good next season. If not, it’ll be the season after that that you challenge for the Conference League position.
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It’s obvious we disagree. I don’t think our current problems are related to him. You may think so, and that’s fine. As I said I think he’s a brilliantly talented player and love watching him. So it’s not a case of him ‘coming good’. I already love what I see from him.
 
Vialli98 said:
It’s obvious we disagree. I don’t think our current problems are related to him. You may think so, and that’s fine. As I said I think he’s a brilliantly talented player and love watching him. So it’s not a case of him ‘coming good’. I already love what I see from him.
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He’s a slightly above average midfielder. He’s not your biggest problem, but he’s not your solution either.

That, in itself, is problematic as he is too expensive an asset to move on should you find someone better.
 
Alan Harper's Tash said:
He’s a slightly above average midfielder. He’s not your biggest problem, but he’s not your solution either.

That, in itself, is problematic as he is too expensive an asset to move on should you find someone better.
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I disagree with that entirely. He’s a brilliant midfielder and he’ll be one the best PL midfielders for years and years to come. We don’t need to move him. He will be the centrepiece to the next great Chelsea team.
 
Vialli98 said:
I disagree with that entirely. He’s a brilliant midfielder and he’ll be one the best PL midfielders for years and years to come. We don’t need to move him. He will be the centrepiece to the next great Chelsea team.
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We shall see. Even pundits have given up trying to give him flowers.
 
mancboy said:
who are their saleable assets, palmer, gallager, nkunku, fernandes and caicedo theyd lose 50m each on easy
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@projectriver made a good point on Talksport the other day. The whole world knows the situation they are in now. Other clubs can just hold out for lower prices until near the end of June, or, if they really don't like Chelsea, make them wait until July and really fuck them over. God knows what United and Arsenal were doing giving them 120 million for Mount and Havertz . ...
 
Alan Harper's Tash said:
We shall see. Even pundits have given up trying to give him flowers.
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Well I don't need pundits building narratives around him to know what I'm seeing. For example, pundits praise Thiago Silva endlessly but I actually think he's one of the bigger problems in the team.
 
halfcenturyup said:
@projectriver made a good point on Talksport the other day. The whole world knows the situation they are in now. Other clubs can just hold out for lower prices until near the end of June, or, if they really don't like Chelsea, make them wait until July and really fuck them over. God knows what United and Arsenal were doing giving them 120 million for Mount and Havertz . ...
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People said this last summer but in the end clubs are more interested in helping themselves than this alternate reality where they're supposed to care so much about sticking it to Chelsea. Why would Arsenal and United have Havertz and Mount miss half of their preseason preparations?

If Wolves really want Broja, for example, then they're gonna pay the money to get him in early because that would be good for their own preparations.
 
Vialli98 said:
Well I don't need pundits building narratives around him to know what I'm seeing. For example, pundits praise Thiago Silva endlessly but I actually think he's one of the bigger problems in the team.
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You’ve spent a billion quid and probably have one star in Nkunku, who can’t stay fit, and a couple of potential stars in Palmer and Jackson.

The rest would be fillers in top teams’ squads, imho.
 
Vialli98 said:
People said this last summer but in the end clubs are more interested in helping themselves than this alternate reality where they're supposed to care so much about sticking it to Chelsea. Why would Arsenal and United have Havertz and Mount miss half of their preseason preparations?

If Wolves really want Broja, for example, then they're gonna pay the money to get him in early because that would be good for their own preparations.
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Clubs will have seen how Havertz and Mount have integrated in their new squads and done nothing.

They'll also note that Chelsea now need to sell a couple of players each summer to pay for what they already have, coupled with the knowledge that PSR breaches mean points‘ deductions.

Next summer might be harder to sell players for top dollar given the above.
 
Alan Harper's Tash said:
You’ve spent a billion quid and probably have one star in Nkunku, who can’t stay fit, and a couple of potential stars in Palmer and Jackson.

The rest would be fillers in top teams’ squads, imho.
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We have a couple of potential stars but yes, Chelsea went down the route of investing in potential. Incredibly risky but that is the path they chose. I don't think they bought a single ready made star aside from Nkunku. Probably 95% of the signings have been 22 years old or younger. Sterling and Koulibaly were supposed to be the experienced star signings but both of them have been flops imo.
 
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