New PL Commercial rule passed (pg4) | City rumoured to be questioning the legality

[Elbow beards]

And still nothing about loading massive debts on clubs... Ooh wonder why?

 

[Gordyola]

To establish market value they would need to speak to the prospective sponsor and see their figures and plans for justification (you know - like sensitive and in some cases critical business details ) of offering the agreed contact amounts. They have absolutely no right to demand that business critical detail that may be of use to a rival.

Let's just say, for example, you were an American bank, with no branches or current account offerings in the UK, why would you sponsor a English football team? Or maybe you're an American car manufacturer and don't have any dealerships in the UK? What is the market advantage of sponsoring an PL team and when do the figures justify the investment?

An investor may say, ' I want to grow my brand internationally and have looked at business plans and engagement of local communities around the world but crucially, success would drive that idea.

Anyway, they are all valid reasons, whether we like them or not, and it's up to them.


p.s . Obviously, if the American bank in the example, were to have committed various money laundering activities and dealt with terrorists, they would need to sportwash their reputation and only they would know the value of sponsorship against their profits from said activities.

Two things
PL is a global entity the players shirts are see world wide
Standard Chartered is a UK bank who operate globally

 

[BlueMoonz1977]

Just woke up and seen this thread, read through the pages just now.

It seems we have warned the PL that they may face a legal challenge - whether that is us or possibly Newcastle remains to be seen

In regards to the other clubs, i just dont understand why they choose to align with the red mafia. I can only assune that they actually dont care about what the fans deem aspirations/dreams about one day challenging or winning a trophy....i think these clubs owners are just happy to ride the coat tails of the red cartel and not have to spend money

The premier league is currently managaed by a patsy that tge red cartel can manipulate.. seems that comment about them having too much power/sway in decisions have once again come home to roost


The so-called associated-party transaction (APT) rules are intended to ensure a level playing field among English football's elite teams by preventing clubs from signing commercial deals at inflated prices, thereby enabling them to spend even greater sums on players.

Level playing field for who?
Who the hell do the premier league think they are to hold the power about commercial deals being inflated and then be judge and executioner to say no deal - and who actually has input on that decision by the premier league!

Maybe this rule is aimed at both Newcastle and our club

Long shot. But maybe this rule being enforced is a indication that the current 115 charges are about to be swatted away by our legal team

 

[Fordyboy46]

You really could fall out of love with the game, they're looking to change the game all the fucking time and all for the wrong reasons as well. Var, blue cards, ffp etc etc. All the shit aimed at City on a daily basis gets you fucking angry as well

 

[r.soleofsalford]

Two things
PL is a global entity the players shirts are see world wide
Standard Chartered is a UK bank who operate globally

And who were fined 1.9 billion for money laundering Colombian drug cartel money

 

[ancoats]

Can I ask a simple question, Why do the Premier League and its members want to protect the Scum, Only a couple of seasons ago they were leaving to form the Super League, If that was not a sign they don't care about anybody else then I don't know what is,

Manchester City did not want to leave, But had to protect themselves and agree to leave, again peer pressure from the scum saying if they leave they will be no Premier League or Champions League or European football or the sort of money it will bring if we stay,

 

[mccity]

Is this going to be like FFP, where it's designed to hit City but actually only screws over the smaller PL clubs that were convinced to vote for it?

 

[Asa's left peg]

Two things
PL is a global entity the players shirts are see world wide
Standard Chartered is a UK bank who operate globally

I stand corrected

Two things
PL is a global entity the players shirts are see world wide
Standard Chartered is a UK bank who operate globally

Maybe I wasn't clear, apologies, but the point was whether we like it or not, it is up to the individual companies and PL's global appeal is a valid reason. for some companies.

 

[Bluewonder]

Is this going to be like FFP, where it's designed to hit City but actually only screws over the smaller PL clubs that were convinced to vote for it?

I can't see how that won't be the case

 

[BrianW]

I love references to a 'level playing field'.

When, in the history of top-flight football has there been a 'level playing field'? Answer, never. The teams who whine most would be horrified if there was such a thing. It would mean all revenues pooled and split 20 ways. More chance of me being elected President for Life of the Commonwealth of Great Britain.

What they mean is: 'We want Rags, LFC, Arsenal and Chelsea to be in the Top 4 every year. Chelsea can slip out occasionally to be replaced by Spurs or whoever. That's what we mean by 'level playing field'.'

 

[cheekybids]

Two things
PL is a global entity the players shirts are see world wide
Standard Chartered is a UK bank who operate globally

They certainly do….. Narco & Terrorist laundering is a global business.

 

[Prestwich_Blue]

I missed it too but was informed, I think by @Prestwich_Blue, that we bought a 25% stake in the arena. I have not seen it anywhere but we are listed as a stakeholder in the legal docs apparently.

It's CFG who have the stake and I believe it's a joint venture with OVG, so close to 50%, with Harry Styles as a minority partner. So CFG will take any financial benefit, not City. The income from the hotel and other developments will be fully City's though.

CFG joins Oak View Group as Joint Venture Partner in Co-op Live

Oak View Group (OVG) today confirmed City Football Group (CFG), the global operator of football and sports-related business, has become OVG’s equal joint venture partner and investor in Co-op Live, alongside Harry Styles, who has taken a minority stake in the pioneering venue.Together, OVG and...

www.cityfootballgroup.com

 

[cheekybids]

I love references to a 'level playing field'.

When, in the history of top-flight football has there been a 'level playing field'? Answer, never. The teams who whine most would be horrified if there was such a thing. It would mean all revenues pooled and split 20 ways. More chance of me being elected President for Life of the Commonwealth of Great Britain.

What they mean is: 'We want Rags, LFC, Arsenal and Chelsea to be in the Top 4 every year. Chelsea can slip out occasionally to be replaced by Spurs or whoever. That's what we mean by 'level playing field'.'

When the Piss Can used to say it all evens out you knew he was full of shit. He’d go mad if it was even.

 

[give it to gordon]

This Associated Party Transaction isnt it normal in big business

You work with people/companies you trust and build networks.

Its normal you have network website like Linkin, I use companies I trust. Companies work with companies they trust.

The pl needs outside regulating quick before it destroys itself.

We can only be extremely thankful our owner and top people have fight in them. This hate filled racist attacks have been on going since the take over.

I know us fans become tired off it. I do and it effect my mental health along with other things going on in my life and certainly lead me onto antidepressants.

Thankfully I'm sorted now and so much happier thanks to these little pills.

Our owner and staff are made of strong stuff thankfully. So trust in our club and dont let the press/media, rival fans get us down. Just smile at them ! They hate that or just agree with them ! Both respondents normally baffles them lolol.

Yes its tedious and pathetic the way the American owners run the pl. I know Newcastle are one of the hateful 8 but I bet they are having their eyes open.

Thank you Mansoor, thank you Kladoon, thank you Pep and the players. But most of all thank you the City fans we are so lucky and have the best fans in the world ( minus the matchday thread !! )

CTID

 

[True blue manc]

Why don't deals like this ever get mentioned as being a bit dodgy,by the press?So much fair market value that the guy that brokered the deal was sacked.Where were the other 2 rival bids in the bidding process?

Chev off: General Motors exec who agreed record sponsorship deal with Man United is sacked

Global marketing chief Joel Ewanick was axed less than 48 hours after it was announced the Chevrolet badge would be emblazoned on the United shirt from next season.

www.mirror.co.uk

The original question rhetorical BTW.Its pure racism.American money good,Arab money bad

 

[Prestwich_Blue]

This Associated Party Transaction isnt it normal in big business

You work with people/companies you trust and build networks.

It's related party transactions that companies have to declare, and there has to be a well-defined connection. Etihad is not a related party to City under the relevant accounting standard but the PL are trying to make it one.

 

[give it to gordon]

It's related party transactions that companies have to declare, and there has to a well-defined connection. Etihad is not a related party to City under the relevant accounting standard but the PL are trying to make it one.

Thanks ! I'm only a FOC without an accounting, big business experience lololol

Just a bloke who cuts grass and follows City everywhere ! Oh for the simple days ;)

 

[jimmygrimblesboots]

This issue would never have seen the light of day if it wasnt for the CFG , we are being specifically targeted nearly every time a new rule is instigated , they are desperate to stop the domination our club holds over the Premeir league . Occasionally in the media you will recieve both sides of an opinion regarding any changes but this does not apply to football there is never any rhetoric inferring that FFP is a negative and limiting clubs forming links with other clubs a backwards step
The strangehold certain clubs have over their puppet Masters and the Premier league is astonishing , and why the other 15 or so clubs just let them accept the situation is even more confusing ,Everton , Newcastle and now Forest have all been hit with the new laws /rules and i fully expect more clubs to be invesigated and charged.
The fact the Rags are now £1bn in debt should really be the concern for the Premeir league not Everton failing FFP by £15m.

 

[Coatigan]

As this was rejected in November there must have been some lobbying going on so it’s not an independent vote. What would have changed in less than 3 months?

There must have been some desperation for this to be passed, I sincerely hope there’s evidence of meddling from the likes of the Hateful 8 and Masters, the latter is a puppet, his strings are being pulled to some tune, we know his agenda but ffs, what’s in it for him?

Masters is an absolute weapon, we need an independent CEO not this lily livered fucker.

Which is why I can believe the claims City would have abstained.

You vote, you legitimise it. Maybe you win. They try again in a couple months and maybe you don't win. Whereas challenging it's legitimacy you show consistency, but then you surely abstain.

 

[Coatigan]

This shit all the time….VAR….blue cards next….fuck football, honestly, the game has turned to shit.

There was a time when football audiences mocked 'tinkering'.