Queues outside M1 turnstiles and over the top security

jrb said:
The answer is for Danny Wilson or whoever is in charge of stewarding at City to sit down with Showsec and to discuss and to review to what extent these physical and personal searches need to happen. Because when stewards are physically patting you down and touching you, that shouldn’t happen or be allowed by City. If a steward wants to wand you, fair enough.

I refused to allow a steward to pat me down. He asked me to open my jacket. (in Winter) I asked him why I should do that. So I can pat you down. I’m not letting you do that. You aren’t touching me. He looked at me. Said nothing. And just wanded me.

I would urge anyone to refuse to be patted down by a steward. If a Showsec or City steward insists on patting you down ask to speak to a steward supervisor. There are 10,000’s of City fans who do not get patted down every home match, so why should any City fan be singled out for no reason to be patted down? They shouldn’t.
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Have you ever refused to be patted down at the airport. Give it a try and see if you fly. I suppose if god forbid there's another terrorist attack, you'd be the one blaming City for the security not being good enough.
 
Invisible Man's Bandage said:
Interesting as I'm in 316. I've not tried N1 but my mate in the next seat tried it a while back as he'd been told you could get in there but it didn't work for him. When the queue at N1 is reasonable and I have time before KO I'll try it as I'm sick of M1.
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Dont think it worked for Burnley but not sure if that was an error in the system but it has worked for the last 2 seasons atleast. Not many people know about it though so please continue to use M1 ;)
 
mancityvstoke said:
You want elderly people to open their coat and other warm clothing underneath when it's freezing and launching it down?

Fuck that.
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Nobody will catch hypothermia opening their coat for ten seconds. Do you think they get dressed up like that to put the bins out?

However they could die if someone managed to get something in a stadium they shouldn’t do.

I bet all these awkward fans wouldn’t challenge airport staff. It’s ironic that the ‘minimum wage’ staff are accused of having power when it seems that some try to get a pathetic little victory by refusing to help.

You wouldn’t think we had large scale terror attack in an arena in our city.
 
One Fan Clapping said:
Nobody will catch hypothermia opening their coat for ten seconds. Do you think they get dressed up like that to put the bins out?

However they could die if someone managed to get something in a stadium they shouldn’t do.

I bet all these awkward fans wouldn’t challenge airport staff. It’s ironic that the ‘minimum wage’ staff are accused of having power when it seems that some try to get a pathetic little victory by refusing to help.

You wouldn’t think we had large scale terror attack in an arena in our city.
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Fair enough
But why do they do it with 1 out of every 10 people or so.
Since the searches began,our entrance was first i believe ( N 1 ) ,i'v been asked about my coat probably 5 to 10 times.
It should be everytime or none.
 
One Fan Clapping said:
Nobody will catch hypothermia opening their coat for ten seconds. Do you think they get dressed up like that to put the bins out?

However they could die if someone managed to get something in a stadium they shouldn’t do.

I bet all these awkward fans wouldn’t challenge airport staff. It’s ironic that the ‘minimum wage’ staff are accused of having power when it seems that some try to get a pathetic little victory by refusing to help.

You wouldn’t think we had large scale terror attack in an arena in our city.
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Load of bollocks.........It's not pissing down in an airport nor icy cold.

Read what has been said..........they don't fucking check anyway.

Waste of time boss.
 
I don't mind all the extra security at all if it means I am safe and will go home after a game but what does annoy me is that a few years ago ( 4 to be honest ) Mrs. Biggie treated me for my 60th birthday and got tickets for the Tunnel Club ( Southampton ).
We turned up and were just waved through after showing our tickets, no security checks at all.
Maybe if you have money you are not a threat.
 
Bigg Bigg Blue said:
I don't mind all the extra security at all if it means I am safe and will go home after a game but what does annoy me is that a few years ago ( 4 to be honest ) Mrs. Biggie treated me for my 60th birthday and got tickets for the Tunnel Club ( Southampton ).
We turned up and were just waved through after showing our tickets, no security checks at all.
Maybe if you have money you are not a threat.
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Or a mob of nobhead "ultras" storming the gates.
 
Do queues move faster on a hot day early or late season when we’re all more scantily dressed I’m M1 and can’t say I’ve noticed a difference unless they start scanning for concealed budgies
 
TShed said:
Do queues move faster on a hot day early or late season when we’re all more scantily dressed I’m M1 and can’t say I’ve noticed a difference unless they start scanning for concealed budgies
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smuggling budgies in is fine....I do it all the time in mine.

I'm in that queue and never get stuck ....they mostly wave me through after a quick scan with a plastic wand thingy
 
One Fan Clapping said:
Nobody will catch hypothermia opening their coat for ten seconds. Do you think they get dressed up like that to put the bins out?

However they could die if someone managed to get something in a stadium they shouldn’t do.

I bet all these awkward fans wouldn’t challenge airport staff. It’s ironic that the ‘minimum wage’ staff are accused of having power when it seems that some try to get a pathetic little victory by refusing to help.

You wouldn’t think we had large scale terror attack in an arena in our city.
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Great response. I think some posters need to get a grip on reality. We all have choices in life.
 
Stewards trying to show us how to use the turn styles on the way in to M2 on Sat like we're stupid and then asking to see tickets on phone on way from concourse to steps down!!! Holding everyone up - how the fuck are we supposed to get into the ground without a ticket? If it's to stop people standing where they aren't allocated seats then they'd just walk along the rows anyway.
 
Sid Snott said:
Great response. I think some posters need to get a grip on reality. We all have choices in life.
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Very in touch with reality. The point however is being missed. The searches are a waste of time. Keys coins etc the scanners don’t detect them half the time.

If you use ss3 and don’t get to the turnstile with 30 mins to spare you’re most likely to miss kick off.

Due to overzealous, lazy and frustrating stewards all of which seem to pick an choose based on the day how willing they are to enforce policies.

So when you get a different story each week and hundreds of people are about to miss kick off but some lads got to take his cap off incase he has an Ak47 underneath it’s hard to not find it frustrating.

(also at airports everyone is searched at city it’s selective at best)

Tell me what area of the ground has that issue half hour before the game :)

*with kick off times constantly changing this will happen more often due to the times we play 19:30 etc makes it impossible to get to games any earlier than half hour before.

As I said previously I don’t begrudge the people doing their jobs or that some issues are due to people being late at times but it’s consistency and the selectiveness which doesn’t sit right with people, one rule one minute next minute anything goes.
 
One Fan Clapping said:
Nobody will catch hypothermia opening their coat for ten seconds. Do you think they get dressed up like that to put the bins out?

However they could die if someone managed to get something in a stadium they shouldn’t do.

I bet all these awkward fans wouldn’t challenge airport staff. It’s ironic that the ‘minimum wage’ staff are accused of having power when it seems that some try to get a pathetic little victory by refusing to help.

You wouldn’t think we had large scale terror attack in an arena in our city.
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It's the inconsistency and randomness of it all. I could go to 18 home games and be wanded, and then on the 19th home game be told to unzip my coat and my fleece by one over zealous steward, not to mention asking me to take off my beanie hat. What am I going to hide under a beanie hat?

Apart from being insane and brainwashed, obviously they don't think they are, there isn't anything that can perfectly describe what a suicide bomber looks like.

But I'm white. 56 years old. I'm a FOC. I've had a season ticket for as long as I can remember. I've got a Mancunian accent. I've got my phone ready to scan at the turnstile. I've got no criminal record. I've been using the same entrance for years since moving to SSL1, block 115, etc. I'm sure the stewards must recognize me by now, unless they are rotated every home match, which I doubt. What exactly am I going to conceal under my coat that would warrant a steward to ask me to open it? Drink? Food? The funny thing is, I've never been asked to empty my coat pockets once where I could have drugs, a knife, or something else, like a metal camera, that has never been picked up by a wand.

Just to add. When I get wanded I do it 2nd nature. Arms out, face forward, turn around, go. I don't ever kick up a fuss.
 
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