11 | Jeremy Doku - 2023/24

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His end product needs to improve and he needs to be a bit more careful with possession as he can tend to lose it in dangerous areas that leave us open for a counter.
That said he looked very good for large parts today. Inconsistency is all it’s about right now.
I’m not worried about him going forward. He’ll come good.
 
Was not his best game but plenty of players had a bad day at the office. He created two great chances that Foden and Haaland mainly fluffed. The worst player on the pitch was our main striker.
 
Brewster's millions said:
He did at least keep running at his man and kept going, and got some good balls into the box.

For some reason Foden didn’t fancy running at Chilwell at all tonight.
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TBH I think that the tactic was set up to create space for left for most of the time this game. But Chelsea clearly has a good plan of how to handle this. That is the problem.
 
Still created plenty of chances despite it not being his best game. End product, final third decision making needs work but he still gives us a great deal of output. Anyone slating him or saying ‘he’s just not very good’ needs to give their head a shake.
 
Phil1 said:
His end product needs to improve and he needs to be a bit more careful with possession as he can tend to lose it in dangerous areas that leave us open for a counter.
That said he looked very good for large parts today. Inconsistency is all it’s about right now.
I’m not worried about him going forward. He’ll come good.
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I’m in a similar place. He’s young and needs the time to improve his decisiveness.

I think what frustrates more is that he does the hardest part in creating the room to make the pass/shot and then doesn’t seem to know what to do.

Haaland and he need to do some drills to work out what the movement will be and where the pass needs to go. Haaland is quite repetitive in always moving to the far post.

He tracked back fine today.
 
chris85mcfc said:
Not happy to be proven right, but I know I took a lot of stick for not towing the party line with him.

I just don't think he's very good, and his one or two great performances have massively outweighed his actual level.

Unfortunately, today he's taken the position of a Bernardo et Al and we've been found out.
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If all it takes is a double team for you to be rendered ineffectual then I'm sorry but you have a long way to go as a winger.

(It's not Jack vs Doku) but I've seen Jack hold off a man and protect the ball like his life depended on it, I've seen him burst a lung running back towards his own goal stopping a counter-attack. He's not great offensively but he's in-sync with the team.

Doku is still an individual playing in a team. He slows down the game too much, never runs in behind, poor defensively, weak shot no end product, just about sold all my stocks in this kid, think Oscar Bobb deserves to start ahead of him.
 
Alan Harper's Tash said:
I’m in a similar place. He’s young and needs the time to improve his decisiveness.

I think what frustrates more is that he does the hardest part in creating the room to make the pass/shot and then doesn’t seem to know what to do.

Haaland and he need to do some drills to work out what the movement will be and where the pass needs to go. Haaland is quite repetitive in always moving to the far post.

He tracked back fine today.
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There was a piece of interview Doku's coaches in Belgium back in November (or October?). One said that although the player preferred to play left side but the coach still wanted him to play right.

There is a reason why several coaches formed the same idea i guess. It is much more simpler to cross using your stronger foot.
 
applejuice said:
There was a piece of interview Doku's coaches in Belgium back in November (or October?). One said that although the player preferred to play left side but the coach still wanted him to play right.

There is a reason why several coaches formed the same idea i guess. It is much more simpler to cross using your stronger foot.
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True, but he doesn’t cross when he chops back either though. Definite work needs doing on the chemistry of the attacks.
 
ojeme said:
Little point being able to consistently beat your man but having a striker that couldn’t do anything after getting on the end of chances created. More like it.
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So we are going to defend the guy that has consistently failed to deliver the killer ball (not one game) while attacking the guy that has averaged approx a goal a game since he’s been here?

I like Doku, he is exciting to watch and he offers something that very few of our other players do…but, there’s no getting away from the fact that once he he does what he does, there is very little at the end of it. That’s the crux of it. I can like watching him play but also think ‘well not much came of that’. We all hope and expect his end product will improve but right here, right now, it isn’t good enough. I don’t know how anyone can argue otherwise.
 
OrigamiNinja said:
So we are going to defend the guy that has consistently failed to deliver the killer ball (not one game) while attacking the guy that has averaged approx a goal a game since he’s been here?

I like Doku, he is exciting to watch and he offers something that very few of our other players do…but, there’s no getting away from the fact that once he he does what he does, there is very little at the end of it. That’s the crux of it. I can like watching him play but also think ‘well not much came of that’. We all hope and expect his end product will improve but right here, right now, it isn’t good enough. I don’t know how anyone can argue otherwise.
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He is hit and miss and was poor in the last 20 mins but He did set two good chances up today though. Foden missed and Haaland missed. He wasn’t the worst player on the pitch and was much better than the other 4 attackers who I thought were all poor. Saying that I would either play Foden over there with Bernado right for now or give Bobb a go. Grealish won’t be fit for a while so options are limited.
 
ojeme said:
He was key? Without Haaland’s record goal scoring and KDB’s magic we’d be no where there. If we had this season’s version of Haaland last year, there would probably be no treble to attach him to.
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As demonstrated by your numerous posts just on the recent few pages of this thread your opinion on Grealish is biased against to the point of being worthless.
 
Damanino said:
he is great compared this is a huge step up for him, also first PL season, trying to bed in etc. PL vs Ligue 1, day and night difference...
but he is currently about 25% of an in form Mahrez which eventually makes us a weaker outfit currently. (similar proble with the out of form Grealish)

I would prefer Foden form the left if Foden needs to be a winger, he scored quite a few last few seasons from left, not so much from right. (where mainly Mahrez played or Bernardo)
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Yeah, I too wondered why Pep did not play Foden on the left and try playing Doku on the right.
 
OrigamiNinja said:
So we are going to defend the guy that has consistently failed to deliver the killer ball (not one game) while attacking the guy that has averaged approx a goal a game since he’s been here?

I like Doku, he is exciting to watch and he offers something that very few of our other players do…but, there’s no getting away from the fact that once he he does what he does, there is very little at the end of it. That’s the crux of it. I can like watching him play but also think ‘well not much came of that’. We all hope and expect his end product will improve but right here, right now, it isn’t good enough. I don’t know how anyone can argue otherwise.
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To be fair the killer ball must be pretty difficult against a packed box with your weak foot whilst double marked. That’s not to say he played well. However how many did Kev try from better positions and not deliver?
 
Craig said:
To be fair the killer ball must be pretty difficult against a packed box with your weak foot whilst double marked. That’s not to say he played well. However how many did Kev try from better positions and not deliver?
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Kev dropped a free header onto Haaland’s head, no more than 8 yards out in the centre of the goal.
 
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