Liverpool Thread - 2023/24

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paulchapo said:
We're all on the same page that through the decades and even today Liverpool fans have been and still are cunts. As for Heysel such was the violence and hooliganism in those days it was bound to happen at one point. A decrepit stadium not fit for purpose, crap segregation and organisation and football related violence at it's peak created the perfect storm. Rest in peace the 39.

On this occasion though they actually were the victims as the investigation has proved. Were they entirely blameless? Probably not, but at least 95% of the blame lies with UEFA, the police and the feral gangs of local youths. This is no scouse love in from me, but I'm fair enough to admit that this time they were fucked over. Not a lot of sympathy and I totally get that even I thought "Karma" at times when I watched it but we can't pretend they were to blame for this one.
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They weren’t entirely blameless. There’s no probably about it. Social media and video evidence on the day of the match and after the match proves that.

Let’s see what happens in Dublin.
 
jrb said:
They weren’t entirely blameless. There’s no probably about it. Social media and video evidence on the day of the match and after the match proves that.

Let’s see what happens in Dublin.
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I'm.hiping they're knocked out before then but it's unlikely.
 
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paulchapo said:
They still back them. It's a scouse thing, they stick together. Did Burnham say anything about our fiasco in Istanbul? Anyone from the club? Those advocating the softly softly approach and turning the other cheek works, I present you.....the scousers.
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Bloody spell checker, Patrick Evra :-)
 
paulchapo said:
Nobody is lecturing you and trust me my hatred for them goes back far further than you, to the late sixties. All yourself and others are doing is quoting past misbehaviour, some from the eighties, when every club had hooligans and giving it as a reason they were to blame in Paris. They weren't. Take that game for what it was, one game, one number ofv incidents. A panel decided who was to blame. No amount of crying to the moon about their past crimes and misbehaviour will change that. As for finishing with La I'm a born and bred Mancunian. St Mary's hospital, raised in Hulme and Benchill.
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So you're a Rag then? I knew it. ;_)
 
Add back another quad trophy to compensate the dippers for crashing out the FA Cup. The Echo has given over space to give players a rating (FFS) for jogging about in the Sven game yesterday.
Dippers overwhelmed a strong Ajax side inspired into a 2-0 half time lead by our very own Kiki Picnic Hamper.

What a club. All games mean more.
 
foggy1974 said:
Klopp telling them to go without tickets & the many images of fake tickets on social media, it had a recipe for chaos which never gets mentioned in the MSM. The ones with genuine tickets would be the ones who would have lost out but they never call out the behaviour of those.
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This..... There is a video on YouTube that someone might post of a BBC report of the trouble in Athens where they interview a lad with a genuine ticket who couldn't get in but in the same news section they talk with another with a fake tickets who got in. Nobody questioned it and if I was the guy with the genuine ticket I would go looking for the jibber to get compensated. But no it's not the fans fault as the end of the report say Liverpool FC want an investigation.
Truly staggering when ignoring the elephant in the room
 
solley attwell said:
This..... There is a video on YouTube that someone might post of a BBC report of the trouble in Athens where they interview a lad with a genuine ticket who couldn't get in but in the same news section they talk with another with a fake tickets who got in. Nobody questioned it and if I was the guy with the genuine ticket I would go looking for the jibber to get compensated. But no it's not the fans fault as the end of the report say Liverpool FC want an investigation.
Truly staggering when ignoring the elephant in the room
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Or, where they are concerned, every elephant that has ever walked the earth in the same room..
 
Dublin already on high alert if they reach the final. It's shocking to think that a City is concerned about football fans coming to a football final. Never any concern when thousands of visiting rugby fans travel over for the weekend or indeed any other football fans, just this one team. Maybe as a club they should be very vociferous in telling fans without a ticket not to travel although I doubt it will deter many. But at customs, no ticket no entry would be a good policy and UEFA should make it clear that if there is any trouble then they will be banned from European competition for another five years.
 
It was mentioned at the time of the Paris CL Final that things might not have been so difficult for The Anfield Road Formation Brick Throwers' Society had the club taken up the option for electronic tickets, as other clubs such as Real Madrid had done.

Similarly, numerous claims were made about 'forgery rings' (particularly in the Winsford and Runcorn areas) selling fake tickets on the interweb-thingy to unsuspecting supporters.

Given the quality of these fakes, it's hard to see what the French authorities could have done to avoid the problems that occurred that night when the many additional thousands of supporters arrived at St Denis trying to gain entry with these forgeries..
 

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paulchapo said:
The fake tickets were a problem but a final so close to the UK was always going to get loads travelling for the atmosphere.
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So that makes it OK, it's not the Liverpool fans fault but it being organised so close. If that was any other fanbase they wouldn't be getting a free pass & that includes them down the road
 
foggy1974 said:
So that makes it OK, it's not the Liverpool fans fault but it being organised so close. If that was any other fanbase they would be getting a free pass & that includes them down the road
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Loads of fans travel to European finals without tickets just to go to fan parks, sample the atmosphere and hopefully get a spare ticket. It's always happened, I'm sure our fans did the same in Istanbul. They would have done so in Portugal but covid restrictions were in place.
 
paulchapo said:
Loads of fans travel to European finals without tickets just to go to fan parks, sample the atmosphere and hopefully get a spare ticket. It's always happened, I'm sure our fans did the same in Istanbul. They would have done so in Portugal but covid restrictions were in place.
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How many of those City fans in both Porto & Istanbul had fake tickets And it only seems to be a problem when Lfc fan go without tickets , I wonder why that is
 
foggy1974 said:
How many of those City fans in both Porto & Istanbul had fake tickets And it only seems to be a problem when Lfc fan go without tickets , I wonder why that is
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I don't know. Why not start an investigation? Get panorama involved or some other investigative body. Oh wait ...there was an investigation remember? The day after the game UEFA and the French authorities said that all the problems were caused by there being thousands of fake tickets. This causes delays at the turnstiles leading to disorder and crushing that led to the police using teargas and batons to quell. Except it was a lie. A few officials at that press conference resigned as a result. A long investigation into what happened was then done. This investigation came down in favour of the Liverpool fans version of events. As a result many will now get compensation. Don't let your hatred of the scouse fuckers actually blind you to the truth. Some of our fans are getting as bad as the scousers.
 
paulchapo said:
I don't know. Why not start an investigation? Get panorama involved or some other investigative body. Oh wait ...there was an investigation remember? The day after the game UEFA and the French authorities said that all the problems were caused by there being thousands of fake tickets. This causes delays at the turnstiles leading to disorder and crushing that led to the police using teargas and batons to quell. Except it was a lie. A few officials at that press conference resigned as a result. A long investigation into what happened was then done. This investigation came down in favour of the Liverpool fans version of events. As a result many will now get compensation. Don't let your hatred of the scouse fuckers actually blind you to the truth. Some of our fans are getting as bad as the scousers.
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Blind to truth, seriously,

that the fans with genuine tickets couldn't get in because of scallys with fake tickets.

The dippers have been totally absolved of any blame yet again & when it kicks off in Dublin it won't be their fault
 
paulchapo said:
The scousers are wankers, especially in numbers and certainly don't help themselves. The whole organisation in Paris was horrendous though and the police there just gas and baton everybody if there's a disturbance regardless as to who's right and wrong. Huge gangs of local thugs looking to jib in and rob people added to the chaos.
What that football club do very well, as a club, managers, players and fans is stick together. Ours don't. We are fragmented. You see it in the discussion on season card increases. "I'm alright, if you can't afford it don't go. It's only £2 a game" and so on. On the Istanbul fiasco you had some saying they had a great time, they didn't have any problems, so trying to dilute the fact many did.
If Pep, the chairman, players and officials of our club would have come out and said our fans suffered terrible problems getting to and from the stadium, it's not acceptable in Europe's top event, it needs investigating it wouldn't have been brushed under the carpet.
Maybe it's more a Mancunian thing with our fans. We're more laid back and just grin and put up with it. Scousers scream blue murder. We might not like it but it gets them results.
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Everything was fine at the other end of the ground
 
foggy1974 said:
Blind to truth, seriously,

that the fans with genuine tickets couldn't get in because of scallys with fake tickets.

The dippers have been totally absolved of any blame yet again & when it kicks off in Dublin it won't be their fault
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Mate at this point I seriously don't give a fuck. Go back in the thread I've discussed it to death, over and over, covering every point, for and against the scouse cunts. I don't support them I'm a Blue. They have been to blame and responsible for many things, from smashing up our coach to the death of 39 Juventus fans. They get a soft ride from the media after the sun lied about what happened at Hillsborough. This time, in Paris, they got the shitty end of the stick. In spite of UEFA and the French authorities lying to cover their own arses, a thorough investigation came to the verdict that they did indeed get the shitty end of the stick. Now yourself and others might not like that. You can shout all you want and point to countless occasions the scousers were to blame in the past. That doesn't mean this time they were and the investigation confirmed that. End of story really. It won't be though, just like if we are exonerated of all charges in our tribunal. Even if we get a public apology from Masters, every premier league chairman and even the fucking King himself, fuckwits will still be saying we're guilty. Such is life.
 
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