PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

[Silva2021]

Apparently, this breach was bigger than their original one, & the next purported breach is projected to be the biggest yet.

On this basis, shouldn't the punishment for each subsequent breach be more punitive than the last? Where's the consistency?

This is further proof the PL are just making shit up on the hoof, as more clubs unitendedly fall foul of their FFP/PSR rules meant to only punish & crush Manchester City.

It’s 2 points as they don’t want Everton to appeal due to the time it would take.

However, it’s going to now be factored into Forests appeal.

It’s an absolute mess and something needs to be changed.

PL have proved themselves inept

 

[KS55]

The PL have got a bloody nerve. They are now mounting a campaign against the independent regulator, claiming that unintended consequences of regulation will damage the league’s competitiveness. What do they think their current regulations do?
Middling clubs are having to sell players to avoid points deduction. The top six are sitting pretty, safe in the knowledge that it is well nigh impossible for any club to challenge them.

 

[paulchapo]

Short and to the point, I like it. Did Dick reply at all?

That morally corrupt piece of shit should be nowhere near any media. At least he's been fucked off from working in this country.

 

[Dribble]

It’s 2 points as they don’t want Everton to appeal due to the time it would take.

However, it’s going to now be factored into Forests appeal.

It’s an absolute mess and something needs to be changed.

PL have proved themselves inept

Apparently, Everton are planning an appeal because of this, the previous breach & the next breach on the horizon, all overlapping with each other.

The PL said this punishment has taken the breach overlaps into account, but Everton are aploplectic with rage & feel they're being hit with treble jeopardy.

 

[Bluewonder]

This is such a nothing comment.

Who are “they” when all of these rules and processes were invented and agreed to by the 20 clubs themselves?

Can you even define sporting integrity?

Because I doubt you’ll find a definition of sporting integrity which allows for blatant cheating without consequences but can’t accept sporting punishments.

Everton and Forest have damaged the integrity of the competition, not the Premier League that did their job as prescribed to them by the clubs.

This is disingenuous.

The rules themselves are phenomenally stupid and so lead to phenomenally stupid sanctions when applied.

They are the antithesis of fair sporting competition because they make it nigh on impossible for an 'outside' club to challenge a select few at the top.

 

[KS55]

Everton and Forest have damaged the integrity of the competition, not the Premier League that did their job as prescribed to them by the clubs.

iirc, the clubs have never agreed to points deductions. It certainly came as an unwelcome surprise to Chelsea.

 

[dadnlad]

Apparently, Everton are planning an appeal because of this, the previous breach & the next breach on the horizon, all overlapping with each other.

The PL said this punishment has taken the breach overlaps into account, but Everton are aploplectic with rage & feel they're being hit with treble jeopardy.

Not knowing rules but you'd think once punished the 3 years would start again or maybe that's what they thought

 

[KS55]

Not knowing rules but you'd think once punished the 3 years would start again or maybe that's what they thought

Autrefois convict, but the latest year in the three year cycle is said by the PL to be the worst breach. I haven’t seen their accounts. Incidently, the PL is claiming that some stadium related items, which are capitalised in their audited accounts, should be included in the ffp calculation. If the PL is going to challenge auditors, we are all in trouble.

 

[Dribble]

Not knowing rules but you'd think once punished the 3 years would start again or maybe that's what they thought

The PL evidently haven't thought this through. If FFP/PSR was only affecting City as intended, no one would give a rats arse, but now everyone can see the unintended consequences, it's showing up these bullshit financial controls for the Premier League killing bollocks they are.

 

[domalino]

iirc, the clubs have never agreed to points deductions. It certainly came as an unwelcome surprise to Chelsea.

They agreed to leave it open to points deductions instead of setting out a table that charts points lost vs how much you overspend.

 

[domalino]

This is disingenuous.

The rules themselves are phenomenally stupid and so lead to phenomenally stupid sanctions when applied.

They are the antithesis of fair sporting competition because they make it nigh on impossible for an 'outside' club to challenge a select few at the top.

You’re (disingenuously, ironically) mixing up 2 separate things.

1) Should there be any financial restrictions in football?

2) Is the Premier League destroying its sporting integrity by enforcing the punishment system the clubs voted for when clubs are caught deliberately cheating?

We’re discussing 2, 1 is a completely different conversation.

 

[M18CTID]

Short and to the point, I like it. Did Dick reply at all?

It wasn’t my tweet but when I checked earlier, no he hadn’t

 

[KS55]

They agreed to leave it open to points deductions instead of setting out a table that charts points lost vs how much you overspend.

Who is they?

 

[domalino]

Who is they?

The clubs.

 

[MarsLlama]

They are damaging the sporting integrity of the league by making points deductions. They will then compound their mistakes if they change the rules that could have potentially have led to clubs being relegated.

Everton's fault though isn't it. We pretty explicitly warned them this would happen.

 

[KS55]

The clubs.

Ah. At which meeting did the clubs vote on this? I’ve not seen that reported, but you may know more.

 

[KS55]

Everton's fault though isn't it. We pretty explicitly warned them this would happen.

On Day 1 of all this Khaldoon warned that it was bonkers. That’s more than a decade ago.

 

[Bluewonder]

You’re (disingenuously, ironically) mixing up 2 separate things.

1) Should there be any financial restrictions in football?

2) Is the Premier League destroying its sporting integrity by enforcing the punishment system the clubs voted for when clubs are caught deliberately cheating?

We’re discussing 2, 1 is a completely different conversation.

I'm not mixing up two things as they are inextricably linked.

The root cause is the rules, the application of them, is merely an extension of that.

Besides the application of the rules and subsequent sporting sanctions is a mess anyway, as sanctions were not clearly defined at the outset.

Btw, there's a whole host of reasons why a business might be loss-making that wouldn't constitute 'deliberate cheating'

 

[KS55]

I'm not mixing up two things as they are inextricably linked.

The root cause is the rules, the application of them, is merely an extension of that.

Besides the application of the rules and subsequent sporting sanctions is a mess anyway, as sanctions were not clearly defined at the outset.

Btw, there's a whole host of reasons why a business might be loss-making that wouldn't constitute 'deliberate cheating'

I’ve never heard of any other system of regulation that does not clearly define all the rules at the outset.

 

[domalino]

Btw, there's a whole host of reasons why a business might be loss-making that wouldn't constitute 'deliberate cheating'

Yeah and none of them apply here.

If you don’t even know what Everton did, how can you give opinions about whether it’s fair or not?