PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

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The Greater Manchester Mayor has addressed the accusations hanging over the club after being a vocal critic of the Premier League's handling of cases against Everton.

Andy Burnham has said he will support Manchester City in receiving 'fair and consistent treatment' amid the club's ongoing case with the Premier League.

Asked if he would support City in a similar manner if he thought the Blues were harshly treated, he told the Manchester Evening News: "So obviously it's not all in the public domain. But absolutely I will support Manchester City in securing fair and consistent treatment, and transparent treatment.

"I think that's the issue, that the Premier League need to reassure everybody on, that it's going to be done in a fair way, in a consistent way.

"And as I say, we don't know yet because there's not much in the public domain, but obviously I will absolutely represent both Manchester clubs, both Premier League clubs, as best I can, when they need my support. Obviously on the basis of, you know, challenging where things have been done unfairly or wrongly, that's what I will do."

Mr Burnham said in February that the Premier League had 'proved, in my view, that they can't properly regulate football through the way it's treated Everton Football Club.'

"We need a strong, independent statutory regulator for football, learning from all of the wrong things that have been done over recent weeks."

In a separate interview last month he said: "“I don’t think that the promoter of a product can also be the regulator of a product, particularly given the amount of money that is circulating in the game." Adding: "The regulator should be the regulator and nothing else."

The Premier League said it was unable to comment on ongoing disciplinary proceedings. In responses to two letters from Mr Burnham regarding Everton’s treatment, the organisation strongly refuted any suggestion cases had been mishandled.

The league also pointed out that the Secretary of State for Culture Media and Sport Lucy Frazer had suggested that cases such as Everton’s would remain a matter for leagues and would not fall into the realm of an independent regulator.

https://www.manchestereveningnews.c...ws/andy-burnhams-vow-over-manchester-29022074
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Scouse ****. He can fuck off with his fake concern.
 
Dribble said:
You've only got to look at Nicola Sturgeon's husband's re-arrest, Angela Rayner's police investigation, & now Labour writing to Lancashire police about Mark Menzies in a tit for tat move against the Tories for Currygate & Rayner, to realise the authorities would have dropped on City like a ton of bricks if any of these breaches were a millimetre above total, utter pedantic bullshit.

It beggars belief that some City fans fail to consider this most fundamental of points.

Look at the hatred & vitriol we've faced from within football & the media. Are we seriously suggesting the authorities aren't aware of the Der Spiegel leaks?

Wouldn't the Red Top Mafia & Spuds not have sent every bit of evidence they had to the authorities if it showed unlawful/illegal criminality in respect to City?

Once I stood back & considered what you've brilliantly outlined, I became totally relaxed about our situation.

The amount of money being spoken about in connection to Sturgeon's husband, Currygate, Angela Rayner & Mark Menzies situations don't even accumulate to anywhere near £1,000.000.

If they've had their collars felt for that lot, surely City would have had our collars ripped off & shoved up our arses, with accusations of 15 years of sustained fraud, totalling hundreds of millions of pounds, involving brown, Middle Eastern terrorists?

All City fans need to keep your take on our situation uppermost in their minds.
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@manimanc getting some long overdue credit.

Absolute BM stalwart.
 
halfcenturyup said:
OK, you didn't take me up on the DM offer, so a few points to consider:

Mancini was never charged by UEFA and so was never discussed at CAS.

Neither was Fordham, although it was known to UEFA as part of the 2014 settlement.

It can be proven that an AJ contract was signed by Mancini, but without external verification, it can't be proven if and how the contract was fulfilled.

There was no FFP at the time Mancini was at the club. His termination settlement fell in the first three-year PL FFP assessment period, but that was negotiated extra-contract presumably.

There was also no requirement at the time to report all manager remuneration to the PL. Have a look at rules P7 and P8 in the earlier handbooks.

Fordham wasn't a related party as defined by accounting standards, the PL APT rules didn't come in until much later

On Fordham, it doesn't appear that the revenue from either of the IP sales in 2013 is an issue. Firstly, because it's equivalent to Chelsea's hotel sale which isn't an issue, apparently. Secondly, because they aren't referred to in the list of referred allegations (although they may be included in "revenue", which I doubt). And thirdly, because the referred allegations *do* refer to the under-reporting of player remuneration 2010/11-2015/16.

All the above doesn't take into account that the PL will have to prove knowing concealment to even look at these issues as they are both time limited otherwise. No chance, imo.

Finally, what's not in the club's books and records is, imo, *the* point to everything: the number of allegations, the allegations over non-cooperation and acting in bad faith and recent changes to PL rules. It is entirely possible the PL considers the club hasn't complied with its requests while the club considers it has complied with all legal requests from the PL.


That's enough for now.
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Mr Half only gives full kickings.
 
jrb said:
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It’s not been “done in a fair way” from the start.
We’ve been portrayed as guilty from the the first minute we were charged by ALL the MSM, SKY, TNT, TALKSHITE and everyone else.
So you Scouse **** you can shove your support where the sun don’t shine.
It’s quite frankly too late as the damage has been done.
Let’s be honest he’d be saying fuck all if his beloved Everton hadn’t been charged.
 
Bluewonder said:
Following Lassel's point that Fordham was disclosed as a related party in the club's accounts, I spent some time digging to corroborate.
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Indeed it was only my memory making me think that Fordham were disclosed, seemingly they weren’t, but that said the Fordham companies were never exactly furtive operations - Cliff was even a director at one point - hence my position that while the PL might be able to land that this setup was ‘wrong’, the fact that City openly operated them and UEFA seemingly knew all along for their FFP purposes would mean any sanction would need to be light.
 
halfcenturyup said:
OK, you didn't take me up on the DM offer, so a few points to consider:
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Apologies, im in Thailand supposed to be on holiday so I have to meticulously plan time to check my phone when Mrs L isn’t looking!

On your points, I think it’s pretty clear we come at this from diametrically opposed positions and won’t see eye to eye which is fine.

As we have all discussed to death, the ‘serious’ charges re: sponsorships it’s impossible to see any realistic prospect of the PL landing, so if your position that despite being ‘charged’ with not declaring Mancini’s full salary and over the Fordham setup they’re indeed nothing burgers and non-actionable then the tribunal will be substantively over before lunch of Day 1 :)
 
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