PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

'Magic hat' has put another thread on twitter this morning relating to our case including some hacked emails that weren't used at CAS.

Some of them do look like they could be an issue
I have definitely seen those emails before - I would be surprised if CAS did not.
Time will tell if they mean anything more than nothing.
 
'Magic hat' has put another thread on twitter this morning relating to our case including some hacked emails that weren't used at CAS.

Some of them do look like they could be an issue
Would it be fair to say "Magic Hat" supports a team that plays in red and is using City for clicks/engagement, and to take the focus away from the failures of their own team this season?

Pretty sure the magician already got tore a new one last week. Shades of shouting at the moon going on here.
 
I have definitely seen those emails before - I would be surprised if CAS did not.
Time will tell if they mean anything more than nothing.
Emails are not evidence of any substantive events referred to. Thus, if I email you telling you to bring your affair with Kate Middleton to an end, it is not evidence of an affair unless corroborated by other evidence. Emails are evidence of a conversation and therefore may be evidence of conspiracy, but even then it would be hard to prove without any substantive act being evidenced elsewhere. CAS afforded the emails little probative value.
 
What have Spurs done to be called "big"? No league title for more than 60 years doesn't make them big. All they have is a shiny new stadium with a large catchment area plus...importantly...London prices. Big profits assured doesn't make them big in status.
First team to win the double in the 20th century and possibly first English team to win a European trophy.
But mostly because they were part of the group that pushed for the creation of the Premier League.
 
Emails are not evidence of any substantive events referred to. Thus, if I email you telling you to bring your affair with Kate Middleton to an end, it is not evidence of an affair unless corroborated by other evidence. Emails are evidence of a conversation and therefore may be evidence of conspiracy, but even then it would be hard to prove without any substantive act being evidenced elsewhere. CAS afforded the emails little probative value.
I get your point. But the IC will definitely ask our lawyers the very obvious question "Why these damaging emails would even exist if Man City has done nothing wrong or has nothing to hide?".

If our lawyers fail to provide a plausible explanation for the existence of these serious emails, then it's safe to assume that we are genuinely fucked. I just hope and pray that they have a reasonable explanation for that.
 
I get your point. But the IC will definitely ask our lawyers the very obvious question "Why these damaging emails would even exist if Man City has done nothing wrong or has nothing to hide?".

If our lawyers fail to provide a plausible explanation for the existence of these serious emails, then it's safe to assume that we are genuinely fucked. I just hope and pray that they have a reasonable explanation for that.
They've already provided a plausible explanation, which is why Cas found us not guilty .
 
Got the 115 from a rag last night in the pub after the parade about cheating City.
Told him not guilty yet and cheating is Wio sneeking out a back window to avoid a drugs test.
Stunned silence from him only broken by his girlfriend saying he got you there.
To be fair he was all right after that.lol.
 
I get your point. But the IC will definitely ask our lawyers the very obvious question "Why these damaging emails would even exist if Man City has done nothing wrong or has nothing to hide?".

If our lawyers fail to provide a plausible explanation for the existence of these serious emails, then it's safe to assume that we are genuinely fucked. I just hope and pray that they have a reasonable explanation for that.
I don’t agree with your second para. The PL have to show some substantive action that follows from the emails. City could easily say something like:
” All companies that are regulated discuss how to test the limits of the regulations. We are not saying these conversations didn’t take place but there is no evidence that any of them were followed up with any action.(Example: In fact, in the case of email x, the managers concerned were explicitly told that such action would be contra to the regs.) This is what Khaldoon meant by “out of context.” What happened after these conversations is key. City do not have to explain the existence of the emails, the onus is on the PL to prove they were acted on, but I’m sure we will show the how and why of them.
 
I get your point. But the IC will definitely ask our lawyers the very obvious question "Why these damaging emails would even exist if Man City has done nothing wrong or has nothing to hide?".

If our lawyers fail to provide a plausible explanation for the existence of these serious emails, then it's safe to assume that we are genuinely fucked. I just hope and pray that they have a reasonable explanation for that.
Thought it was up to the PL to prove that the emails are bona fide & NOT out of context???
 
I get your point. But the IC will definitely ask our lawyers the very obvious question "Why these damaging emails would even exist if Man City has done nothing wrong or has nothing to hide?".

If our lawyers fail to provide a plausible explanation for the existence of these serious emails, then it's safe to assume that we are genuinely fucked. I just hope and pray that they have a reasonable explanation for that.

Some of the emails were written before FFP even existed.

Some only sound bad if you put a negative narrative on them.

Worth reading the CAS verdict before running your mouth.

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I get your point. But the IC will definitely ask our lawyers the very obvious question "Why these damaging emails would even exist if Man City has done nothing wrong or has nothing to hide?".

If our lawyers fail to provide a plausible explanation for the existence of these serious emails, then it's safe to assume that we are genuinely fucked. I just hope and pray that they have a reasonable explanation for that.
The emails were reviewed by CAS and deemed immaterial in terms of a guilty verdict, why would it be any different this time. Regardless, an email saying you have done something is nothing without actual evidence. The books show no wrongdoing so the emails are pretty irrelevant
 
I get your point. But the IC will definitely ask our lawyers the very obvious question "Why these damaging emails would even exist if Man City has done nothing wrong or has nothing to hide?".

If our lawyers fail to provide a plausible explanation for the existence of these serious emails, then it's safe to assume that we are genuinely fucked. I just hope and pray that they have a reasonable explanation for that.
The emails are only proof of a conversation not an action. If I said in an email that I'd willingly kill Nigel Farage and then he gets murdered it doesn't prove I'd done it.
 
The emails were reviewed by CAS and deemed immaterial in terms of a guilty verdict, why would it be any different this time. Regardless, an email saying you have done something is nothing without actual evidence. The books show no wrongdoing so the emails are pretty irrelevant
As Stefan says in his X post, IF PROVED….By which he means if ACTION is proved. CAS were clear that no such proof was offered.
 
I get your point. But the IC will definitely ask our lawyers the very obvious question "Why these damaging emails would even exist if Man City has done nothing wrong or has nothing to hide?".

If our lawyers fail to provide a plausible explanation for the existence of these serious emails, then it's safe to assume that we are genuinely fucked. I just hope and pray that they have a reasonable explanation for that.
Frankly mate your last paragraph is nonsense. The panel’s decision will turn on real evidence not “explanations” - or the lack of - about random emails. Take a deep breath.
 
Got the 115 from a rag last night in the pub after the parade about cheating City.
Told him not guilty yet and cheating is Wio sneeking out a back window to avoid a drugs test.
Stunned silence from him only broken by his girlfriend saying he got you there.
To be fair he was all right after that.lol.

I had the same watching the final in the pub. Didn't know any rags were in there until they scored.
Than all I got was 115, getting relegated, 115, cheats, getting relegated on and on it went.
I felt myself getting really angry and went outside to cool of for 5 minutes.

In the end I reacted ny saying in a very angry voice lol "you've never won 4, should have been Coventry in the final, aren't even brave enough to wear your colours"
Abit childish I'll admit but in all honesty I was expecting it to end in a fight, they had pushed me to far. After that they went quite.
63yrs old and I was happy to have a fight with these knobheads if that's what it took lol
 

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