PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

HelloCity said:
These charges were supposed to be a huge weight around the clubs neck. I believe they were supposed to make players question being at the club and push for moves away, they were meant to break our spirit and stop us being as dominant, and they were meant to make our manager consider his future as well.

It's amazing then that they had the opposite effect. Our 2022/23 season looked like it might fizzle out but the charges galvanized the entire club which led to our first CL win and the sainted treble. We followed that up the season after by winning an historic 4th league title in a row.

The initial part of their plan then can be deemed a total failure. Although the battle of what comes after the charges is still to be won, we should be happy that we've already won the first part of the battle by continuing to make history on and off the pitch.
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Maybe, but the orchestrated smear campaign has sullied the clubs reputation and tarnished our achievements in the eyes of some. I’d be very surprised if the clubs global growth hasn’t been impacted by the constant labelling of us as cheats. It’s a nasty insinuation and a bad reputation to have. The clubs out to get us know this, as do their media friends, so they have definitely succeeded in that respect.
 
John Wayne said:
It's easy to get down about it but I take pride in what it represents - the fact that City have broken and demoralised these people. Not that long ago, they had a banner in the Cretford End mocking our 34 years without a trophy. They sang "let's all laugh at City". Well they're not fucking laughing now, are they? Liverpool fans used to ruffle our hair because we had a common enemy. Look at what we've done to them and their outgoing manager. We're hated because we're good. Not just good, but the best in class.

Chelsea have admitted to paying players off the books and The Times revealed that the full extent of this had not been disclosed. They appear to be in very hot water, but nobody is talking about them. Why? Because they aren't winning Trebles and four-in-a-row.

There's a great line in the Treble documentary from Conor McNamara after we won 1-3 at The Emirates Stadium - "if you come for the king then you'd better not miss". That applies off the field too. City are that quiet, nice bloke at the back of the room who never sounds off. What nobody in the room realises is that the quiet, nice bloke could rip your head off with his bare hands when the time is right. And that day is coming.
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Sorry but just like so many that voice an opinion re the 115 you have fallen into the same trap commenting on our issue.

As far as I am aware from the reports Chelsea haven’t admitted to paying players “ Off the books “ at all. What Chelsea have said it has reported itself for incomplete financial information.



That could as you say be about payments to players but equally it could be something else a or indeed breaches along the lines of those detailed below.


www.thebureauinvestigates.com

Abramovich’s hidden football deals during Chelsea’s time at the top

Offshore deals with key figures were not recorded in Chelsea’s accounts, despite potentially benefiting the club
www.thebureauinvestigates.com www.thebureauinvestigates.com
 
HelloCity said:
These charges were supposed to be a huge weight around the clubs neck. I believe they were supposed to make players question being at the club and push for moves away, they were meant to break our spirit and stop us being as dominant, and they were meant to make our manager consider his future as well.

It's amazing then that they had the opposite effect. Our 2022/23 season looked like it might fizzle out but the charges galvanized the entire club which led to our first CL win and the sainted treble. We followed that up the season after by winning an historic 4th league title in a row.

The initial part of their plan then can be deemed a total failure. Although the battle of what comes after the charges is still to be won, we should be happy that we've already won the first part of the battle by continuing to make history on and off the pitch.
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Excellent post
 
terraloon said:
Sorry but just like so many that voice an opinion re the 115 you have fallen into the same trap commenting on our issue.

As far as I am aware from the reports Chelsea haven’t admitted to paying players “ Off the books “ at all. What Chelsea have said it has reported itself for incomplete financial information.



That could as you say be about payments to players but equally it could be something else a or indeed breaches along the lines of those detailed below.


www.thebureauinvestigates.com

Abramovich’s hidden football deals during Chelsea’s time at the top

Offshore deals with key figures were not recorded in Chelsea’s accounts, despite potentially benefiting the club
www.thebureauinvestigates.com www.thebureauinvestigates.com
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It’s like you get robbed but instead of calling the police you say to the robbers “What about next door?!”

Easily done though. At least you don’t wear red…they are never in trouble!
 
There is a Light said:
Maybe, but the orchestrated smear campaign has sullied the clubs reputation and tarnished our achievements in the eyes of some. I’d be very surprised if the clubs global growth hasn’t been impacted by the constant labelling of us as cheats. It’s a nasty insinuation and a bad reputation to have. The clubs out to get us know this, as do their media friends, so they have definitely succeeded in that respect.
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There's no maybe. We've continued to be successful and on an historical level.

The bad reputation aspect has not impacted us in a clear material way. It's very annoying, but it hasn't stopped us winning trophies or even our ability to throw up the new North Stand.
 
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terraloon said:
Sorry but just like so many that voice an opinion re the 115 you have fallen into the same trap commenting on our issue.

As far as I am aware from the reports Chelsea haven’t admitted to paying players “ Off the books “ at all. What Chelsea have said it has reported itself for incomplete financial information.



That could as you say be about payments to players but equally it could be something else a or indeed breaches along the lines of those detailed below.


www.thebureauinvestigates.com

Abramovich’s hidden football deals during Chelsea’s time at the top

Offshore deals with key figures were not recorded in Chelsea’s accounts, despite potentially benefiting the club
www.thebureauinvestigates.com www.thebureauinvestigates.com
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I hold my hands up. I did make an assumption. I saw this article and just assumed that this was the nature of the items Boehly's regime self-reported:

www.theguardian.com

Chelsea FC face new questions over how Roman Abramovich funded success

Leaked files reveal secret payments that may have breached football’s strict ‘financial fair play’ rules
www.theguardian.com www.theguardian.com

Where I will stand my ground, however, is in my view that Chelsea are not receiving the same scrutiny and criticism as City over allegations of a comparable level of severity.
 
KS55 said:
I am going to change my user name. Having read the post from @petrusha my name will now be sesquipedalian blue and I shall post verbose and puffed up nonsense. Oh, what do you mean you already do?
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I meant to reply to @petrusha too after seeing his post. Expertly slipped that in there.
Have we had better?
I do love a good sesquipedalian repost.
 
There is a Light said:
Maybe, but the orchestrated smear campaign has sullied the clubs reputation and tarnished our achievements in the eyes of some. I’d be very surprised if the clubs global growth hasn’t been impacted by the constant labelling of us as cheats. It’s a nasty insinuation and a bad reputation to have. The clubs out to get us know this, as do their media friends, so they have definitely succeeded in that respect.
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How successful do we have to be on and off the pitch before you think it is having no effect,? You need to understand these charges are built on pure jealousy, anything after that is just ignorance.
 
John Wayne said:
I hold my hands up. I did make an assumption. I saw this article and just assumed that this was the nature of the items Boehly's regime self-reported:

www.theguardian.com

Chelsea FC face new questions over how Roman Abramovich funded success

Leaked files reveal secret payments that may have breached football’s strict ‘financial fair play’ rules
www.theguardian.com www.theguardian.com

Where I will stand my ground, however, is in my view that Chelsea are not receiving the same scrutiny and criticism as City over allegations of a comparable level of severity.
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To be fair we haven’t been charged yet and yes I think there are some incomings
 
John Wayne said:
It's easy to get down about it but I take pride in what it represents - the fact that City have broken and demoralised these people. Not that long ago, they had a banner in the Cretford End mocking our 34 years without a trophy. They sang "let's all laugh at City". Well they're not fucking laughing now, are they? Liverpool fans used to ruffle our hair because we had a common enemy. Look at what we've done to them and their outgoing manager. We're hated because we're good. Not just good, but the best in class.

Chelsea have admitted to paying players off the books and The Times revealed that the full extent of this had not been disclosed. They appear to be in very hot water, but nobody is talking about them. Why? Because they aren't winning Trebles and four-in-a-row.

There's a great line in the Treble documentary from Conor McNamara after we won 1-3 at The Emirates Stadium - "if you come for the king then you'd better not miss". That applies off the field too. City are that quiet, nice bloke at the back of the room who never sounds off. What nobody in the room realises is that the quiet, nice bloke could rip your head off with his bare hands when the time is right. And that day is coming.
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Top bloke is McNamara, was my Landlord a couple of years ago.
 
There is a Light said:
To be clear, i agree that the charges aren’t having an effect on the pitch. In fact, as Hello City said it actually galvanised us last season. But to say the main protagonists have been in no way successful in their aim isn’t true either.
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They should give us some more charges to keep the motivation up.

Charge 116 turning up half cut for the Fa cup final and proceeding to make the worst United team in 30 odd years look good.
 
Prophet of Doom said:
Magic Hat has jumped the shark with his latest post.

He’s even got Lance Armstrong links in there and blocked any responses.
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The Lance Armstrong comparisons have to be some of the most childish and ridiculous I've seen. We have 11 non doped players on the pitch at any given time vs 11 other non doped players (cough, Liverpool, cough). Accusations of financial doping are miles away from actually physically doping.
 
Sooner this thing is over and done with, the better. Getting a bit tiresome hearing the cryptic remarks from all corners now.

Edu: 'There are things that unfortunately I cannot say what I feel. It's a strange feeling, very strange"'.
 
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