PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

[Ballymagash Blue]

I'm pretty convinced that everything that happened since 2007 was a dream. I just hope that when we awake Sinatra will bring the good days back.

 

[goldcoastblue]

I'm pretty convinced that everything that happened since 2007 was a dream. I just hope that when we awake Sinatra will bring the good days back.

He's too busy in the media thread saying there's no bias against us

 

[eastmanc]

So. Fucking. What.

Because that is one of the main reasons why these charges have been brought so that our achievements are smeared in the eyes of all the other clubs. Oh and why the aggressive fucking tone?

 

[eastmanc]

Mancini payments will definitely be one of the main ones.

All Machini has to do is say that the payments were for his consultation role in the UAE. I don't see how they can prove otherwise.

 

[heslops barnet]

They new it would take years to get an outcome and the media every month could write an article about it and every media outlet can praise us then at the end say but.. 115

Just hope when we are cleared Khaldoon will go to town on the media and certain clubs..

Don’t think Khaldoon will go down that route, doesn’t appear to operate in that manner…..

 

[eastmanc]

All Machini has to do is say that the payments were for his consultation role in the UAE. I don't see how they can prove otherwise.

He has already come out and said this by the way.

 

[Cobwebcat]

The PL found themselves between a rock and a hard place. Under immense pressure from the history boys to investigate these charges, and under the threat of an independent regulatory body they simply had to act. The risk was that the history boys pushed for the independent regulator instead - I'm sure that was threatened. So they took action. I don't think the PL lose any credibility if no charges are brought against us. They just say that the fair and impartial review deemed the club innocent of all charges.

Part of the job has been done by just bringing charges upon us. It's meant that supporters of the history boys are convinced we're guilty and will still be convinced if and when we are found innocent. Yes they'd love for us to be relegated, stripped of titles and ruined as a club but reputational damage is still a big win for those in the boardroom.

I know what you mean but disagree. When our owners started to transform the club and demonstrate our business model was working, Arsenal, United and Liverpool had a choice. They could either copy us or try to stop us moving forward with the plan.

Thank God they chose the latter. At the time there were quite a few sports economic papers published pointing this out. Even better they had multiple time periods to review their failed decision and turn back. There was a tipping point about 5 years ago where it was their last chance to catch and then overtake City using their historical popularity to their advantage, and all three carried on down the road to nowhere refusing to invest in their own clubs.

We are now the strongest football club in the World both on and off the pitch.There is no reputational damage at all except in fans heads and the press. The Club, in the time this has been going on, has won 17 major trophies has the highest revenue in football and is the biggest brand overtaking Real Madrid and Barcelona. City are now expanding the area around the stadium in addition to the stadium itself. They own or have a controlling Interest in 13 clubs around the World. Contrast those huge achievements with the clubs that tried to stop us…how have they got on? Did it work?

The red clubs have put enormous effort into trying to stop us and, at the same time, have slipped further and further behind until they are now too late.

So what is left? Surely the supporters of those clubs would be furious at their own club? Well one set is but the others….not so much. What can they do to distract people from their abject failure to tackle City correctly when they had the chance?

The answer is to create a situation whereby fans believe huge reputational damage has been done to City from which they will ultimately never recover. “We called them cheats, we said they had no history, we said nasty owners” It didn’t cost them a penny.

It’s a shame that some of our own fans believe we are losing an important battle but it doesn’t make any difference. City decided to be “best in class” in all areas and it’s worked quicker than they expected because nobody effectively challenged them In the way they thought. Jesus…Khaldoon even told them at one point “we are not responsible for your failures” and “just accept we are here” He was basically saying if you don’t like it copy us If you think you are losing out.

City fans often say why don’t the club sue this person or that person for lying…not a warning, actually do it. The reason they don’t is because City will not get involved in battles that do not matter to them. They focus on the plan and move forward, ever evolving.

City will never tell its own fans not to get upset about the press, they will hope they notice that it hasn’t worked and enjoy the success but, in the end, even that doesn’t matter to them either, it’s not their job.

People will believe what they want to believe but the facts are what matter. City have played it beautifully.

As for the other clubs well they should thank their lucky stars football has loyal customers. In any other businesses their boards would have been fired by the shareholders years ago for failing to respond to the challenge and instead claiming victory by way of reuputational damage while their clubs sank without trace.

It doesn’t look like a big win for them because it isn’t, quite the opposite in fact.

 

[blue b4 the moon]

He's heard what I've been telling the forum all along. That there are essentially just three substantive charges, plus the consequent ones deriving from those three (failure to provide accurate accounts, which then impacts PL cost control rules and UEFA's FFP).

The three are:

1. Mancini's Al Jazira contract. Red herring and UEFA also knew about it in 2018.
2. Image rights payments. UEFA knew about this by 2015 & it was resolved.
3. Sponsorship revenue, probably the Etisalat contract that was time-barred. Again, UEFA knew about that and had agreed there was no issue.

If none of those can be proven then the rest automatically fail.

Multiply that by multiple rules and multiple years to get the magic 115 number.

It does seems so small time that the red shirts & media in the UK are pinning all their hopes and dreams on a few million quid 10 years ago.

 

[bobbyowenquiff]

How stupid are the PL
Why did they let the press run with the 115 BS when they knew 3 is all they had

They provided the figure. It’s just a smear campaign

 

[blue b4 the moon]

Purely speculating, of course, but I guess if the PL had, say, a whistleblower witness of their own that could potentially counter our evidence. I doubt they have, but you'd imagine they must have something that gave them confidence to proceed with such serious charges. Unless the aim really was just to smear our name, as some have claimed, but it will be more reputationally damaging to the PL if the charges are thrown out. If they've just been railroaded into this by certain clubs then their credibility is shot.

Yoiu could use the same lines for UEFA Ric.....they had fuck all apart from a pair of emails doctored together.

It's all about the smear.