Media Discussion - 2023/24

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Maly said:
I think the first thing to think is, which PL clubs don’t want the club World Cup & why?

If it’s City & Chelsea complaining, I’ll believe it’s about players being overplayed

If it’s anyone who’s not qualified complaining , I’d suggest they want a boycott due to the financial benefits their competitors ie City & Chelsea, will gain as it’s no extra games for anyone other than City & Chelsea players
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If City and Chelsea pull out they will just ask the 2 red shirted teams to take our place, do we want that ?
 
Kinkybyname said:
Guardiola's colossal impact on English football can be seen at all levels of game But clubs now appear to be favouring coaches who can imitate his style Sunday league, grassroots, pub football… how Pep's influence has trickled down the pyramid - Listen to the It's All Kicking Off podcast
Pep Guardiola's fingerprints are all over English football nowadays.
From the Premier League to Sunday morning cloggers on park pitches, everybody is trying to play out from the back, invert their full backs and strangle the opposition into submission through possession.
No coach in the modern era has been as influential on how the national sport is played. Teams want to be 'Man City lite' for the simple reason they're so successful.
It's likely Guardiola will only spend one more season at the Etihad but his influence will endure. He has proven consistently that his way is the best way to win football matches.
But it isn't just that - the 'Guardiola effect' is now rippling down into how leading clubs recruit their managers. The Guardiola 'coaching tree' is coming into full blossom.
And why not? Guardiola's track record speaks for itself.
His City team have dominated English football in recent years with six Premier League title wins, two FA Cups, four League Cups, a Champions League crown and a FIFA Club World Cup.

They have come as close to footballing perfection as it's possible to come in a league which likes to portray itself as the toughest in the world.
So any coach who has orbited Pep's shining star is likely to be in hot demand.
Despite the likes of Thomas Tuchel, Jose Mourinho, Massimiliano Allegri and Mauricio Pochettino being on the managerial market, clubs are increasingly gravitating to so-called 'Diet Peps' in the hope the magic has rubbed off.
Of course, Chelsea have been around the block with most of those other coaches but their choice of Enzo Maresca, who held various coaching roles under Guardiola at City, is still instructive.
Like Guardiola, Maresca reveres the work of Johan Cruyff, considers football as essentially chess played on grass, and takes a literal hands-on approach in training sessions.
When the 44-year-old arrived at Leicester City last year, he demanded the players buy in to his methods completely or get out.
Leicester's style of football didn't always win full favour with the fans but the players knew precisely what they were doing and ultimately it got them back to the Premier League.

Patience is notoriously in short supply at Stamford Bridge so it will be fascinating to see the reaction to Chelsea's painstaking build-up play under the Italian.
But having dispensed with Tuchel, Graham Potter and Pochettino in quick order, the Chelsea hierarchy appear to have decided imitation is the sincerest form of flattery when chasing Guardiola's City.
Likewise at Bayern Munich, where a number of prominent coaches turned them down before they settled on former City captain Vincent Kompany as Tuchel's replacement.
The Belgian's managerial CV isn't sparkling - he finished fourth and third in the Belgian league with Anderlecht, then guided Burnley straight back into the Premier League.
Once there, the Clarets looked woefully out of their depth as Kompany proved uncompromising when it came to the style that was successful in the Championship but ill-advised in the top-flight.
They won just five of 38 games but that seemingly doesn't matter to Bayern. What's important is that Kompany had a playing style attractive to them and stuck to it.
The ironic thing is that had Kompany switched to something a little more pragmatic and kept Burnley in the Premier League through dull but effective football, Bayern wouldn't have come calling.
They even admitted to reaching out to Guardiola to canvas his thoughts on his former captain.
Former chief executive Karl-Heinz Rummenigge said: 'Guardiola was also helping us with Kompany, he spoke very highly of Vincent as a talented coach.
'Pep knows Vincent well and his opinion was really appreciated.'
So a nod of approval from Guardiola - a former Bayern boss of course - helped seal the deal. Good due diligence, no doubt, but another sign of Guardiola's influence.
Elsewhere, other Pep disciples are doing very well. His former assistant Mikel Arteta has made Arsenal the one team that looks capable of stealing City's Premier League crown.
Arteta's brand of football isn't full-strength, undiluted Pep but you can certainly spot where he's borrowed elements from his old mentor.

If Arsenal make it third time lucky and win the title ahead of City next season, it will be a rare example of apprentice beating master.
Then there's Xabi Alonso, who played under Guardiola at Bayern between 2014 and 2016, towards the end of an illustrious career and just as he was considering coaching.
Alonso has just led Bayer Leverkusen to an incredible unbeaten season in Germany, winning the league and cup, while also reaching the Europa League final.
Indeed, the only coach to have previously crossed paths with Guardiola not in favour seems to be Erik ten Hag at Manchester United.
Ten Hag was in charge of Bayern Munich's second team while Guardiola led the main side and the Dutchman relished their tactical chats.
Despite masterminding last weekend's FA Cup win over City, Ten Hag's Old Trafford future remains up in the air.
If he does depart, that past association with Guardiola may well put Ten Hag in demand.
After all, the attitude among clubs right now seems to be 'if we can't have the real Pep, then get the next best thing.'
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Exactly what we've been saying on here for years now.
English football owes a debt of gratitude to Pep and City that they will never be able to repay.
 
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vomit said:
They are writing articles to get a rise out of this thread. When will more people figure this out, along with posting tweets and articles that get thousands upon thousands of impressions that then ultimately draws in revenue, viewer numbers and sadly at our expense LOL's for them!
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You think the press are writing articles just to get a response on this forum? Really?
 
Beaker said:
I agree with this, send 25% of all Premier League TV revenues to the lower leagues and divide the balance by 20, so every Premier League club gets an equal split, cancel parachute payments. Clubs that qualify for European competition can keep that TV money for themselves.
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Nice recipe to destroy the Premier League, the quality would fall, top players would go elsewhere, European money would diminish as other Leagues get stronger.
 
feelymcfeel said:
BBC Sport. They ask 2 players, both of whom played for Arsenal. Both unsurprisingly say Arsenal.
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Really rankles with them this latest bottle flop. That and being always viewed on a par with laughable Spurs, less successful in Europe than West Ham, not fit for any comparison with Chelsea's achievements.
All they've got is their season of boring draws and 1 nils. Yay the Invincibles!
Very vociferous on social media as you'd expect of Islington's finest - but no substance.
Not winning the league anytime soon.
 
As the CL final approaches, I was just thinking again, about the comparison between ourselves and Real, as they bid to win the CL for the 15th time.

By definition the 'Galatico' concept has been based on (if not) paying exorbitant fees then always massive wages. The controversies of the training ground sale, tapping referees etc, debt and how the funding/prize money distribution is heavily weighted in their favour. Then finally, how it is definitely NOT boring when they win titles year after year.

Compare that to our treatment, in the press. It doesn't piss me off now, more just a wry smile at how the masses will swallow the shite served up without questioning anything.
 
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