Devolution For The Regions - Gtr Manchester

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PPT said:
Agree with all of that. However, one of Burnham’s main pledges before he got elected, was to sort out the homeless problem in Manchester. It has demonstrably worsened since he took office.
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Which isn’t surprising when you factor in all of the cut backs plus other issues that have gone on over the past 14 years.
 
inchy14 said:
Which isn’t surprising when you factor in all of the cut backs plus other issues that have gone on over the past 14 years.
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As I say: excuses. It’s very easy to blame someone else. He’s in office. That’s his job. He has demonstrably failed. He’s all talk and image. The sooner he fucks off back to the Labour Party now they are in power (and he will) the better.
 
mexico1970 said:
I'm still waiting for the grifter to solve the homeless crisis in Manchester, there are more and more beggars on the street and Piccadilly gardens resembles an open air mental ward.
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I got back from Valencia a few weeks ago...it was nearly as bad there! Certainly the beggars anyway, got cursed by a gypsy woman (who must have been at least 80) who we refused after she shoved her hand under our faces. I was flying back the next day and I'm a nervous flyer.....so "thanks, love!"

It was every 10 minutes with them, especially when sat outside.
I hate that people feel the need to beg, but it's hard to identify when someone is genuine and when someone isn't.

I did "give" on a couple of occasions but I can't do it every time
 
mackenzie said:
I got back from Valencia a few weeks ago...it was nearly as bad there! Certainly the beggars anyway, got cursed by a gypsy woman (who must have been at least 80) who we refused after she shoved her hand under our faces. I was flying back the next day and I'm a nervous flyer.....so "thanks, love!"

It was every 10 minutes with them, especially when sat outside.
I hate that people feel the need to beg, but it's hard to identify when someone is genuine and when someone isn't.

I did "give" on a couple of occasions but I can't do it every time
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Thessaloniki was insane for it when I went to watch us play Aris, was full of the beggars with mad broken legs sat on skateboards the ones gangsters create. Begging is a business for criminals and it's very hard to tell who is genuine.
 
Scottyboi said:
Thessaloniki was insane for it when I went to watch us play Aris, was full of the beggars with mad broken legs sat on skateboards the ones gangsters create. Begging is a business for criminals and it's very hard to tell who is genuine.
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Certainly is.
I really noticed an increase in it this year...did you as well?
 
mackenzie said:
Certainly is.
I really noticed an increase in it this year...did you as well?
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I've not been to town for over a year now, if I go to a city centre it's normally Chester, find it to be a more pleasant experience! Town looks like the set of a post apocalyptic zombie film and has plenty of nutters roaming about who should be sectioned.
 
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Scottyboi said:
I've not been to town for over a year now, if I go to a city centre it's normally Chester, find it to be a more pleasant experience! Town looks like the set of a post apocalyptic zombie film and has plenty of nutters roaming about who should be sectioned.
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Very true! However, I think they actually try and contain it to the area around Picc Gardens. Which is a shame because it used to be lovely there;pre 1980s!
It's bloody awful that people are so "lost" but they have always been around
 
PPT said:
As I say: excuses. It’s very easy to blame someone else. He’s in office. That’s his job. He has demonstrably failed. He’s all talk and image. The sooner he fucks off back to the Labour Party now they are in power (and he will) the better.
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For the last 14 years there has been a reducing of councils budgets under the conservative governments austerity policy, plus Brexit, Covid and the war in the Ukraine. Anyone who doesn’t realise that this country is financially fucked is a moron and is letting political blindness get in the way of their thought process.
 
r.soleofsalford said:
For the last 14 years there has been a reducing of councils budgets under the conservative governments austerity policy, plus Brexit, Covid and the war in the Ukraine. Anyone who doesn’t realise that this country is financially fucked is a moron and is letting political blindness get in the way of their thought process.
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Covid and the war have only happened in the last 6 years. Anyone who believes Burnham is doing a good job is a total and utter moron. Take the walk from Piccadilly Station to the Arndale on Saturday morning and get back to me. It’s an absolute disaster. It’s like being in a sci-fi movie. Burnham is complete and total fake on every level. A career politician and nothing else.
 
PPT said:
Covid and the war have only happened in the last 6 years. Anyone who believes Burnham is doing a good job is a total and utter moron. Take the walk from Piccadilly Station to the Arndale on Saturday morning and get back to me. It’s an absolute disaster. It’s like being in a sci-fi movie. Burnham is complete and total fake on every level. A career politician and nothing else.
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Looks like it only affected Manchester, we should be ashamed but people just wont admit it. If it was a Tory Mayor who allowed this decline they'd be nailing him to a wall and rightly so.
 
metalblue said:
So no difference between running a business or a charity. I agree.

@Mr Kobayashi was the one saying those who succeeded in business do not obviously make good “politicians” because of this so having a background in government or unions would be a better fit in his view. Timpson is an example of someone without this direct political experience (although I’d argue unions don’t fit either) so I was merely asking if he thought it was a good appointment under his frame of reference.

Hopefully it’s clear now.
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I did include Timpson as a good appointment because of his extracurricular activities around Prisons rather than him running a business in an earlier draft but took it out for the sake of brevity and because I wasn't arsed enough to spend time articulating the point.

People who have worked in unions are always good candidates for local government or central (if we are solely focusing on experience and not character or personality) they've seen shite employers and shite employees taking the piss and they should know the issues that need raising on behalf of working people and making employment law and protections achieve the objectives they were brought in for.
 
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The rubbish and general filth in the city centre leaves a lot to be desired. It's even worse just beyond the city centre. I dont see why that cant be improved massively with regular street cleaning improvements?

The homeless situation is shameful but that occurs sadly in many big Cities.
 
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