The Labour Government

[Worsleyweb]

You’ve been wrong about the previous government for the best part of a decade so it’s unlikely being wrong again will leave you amazed.
Let’s wait and see. You may have good reason for your OTT reactions to the election result but as of now you’re just looking at every aspect in the worst possible light because you’re bitter the Tories we’re finally caught out and the country came to its senses.
Even you have to admit that the direction they were heading wasn’t positive and caused more division than any other government in years.
If Labour fuck up then your lot will get in again and the cycle will continue.

The last government were the unluckiest in history with the pandemic and the energy crisis. We were in a decent position at the start to the decade after the post financial crash recovery. Sadly the crazy last 4/5 years put paid to that. I fundamentally just don’t believe left of centre politics works and as I keep saying the state of that front bench!

 

[hilts]

Nope, he believes his shit and has done for years

Yeah but when questioned about what is a basic I'm alright Jack type of attitude, when it comes to backing up that view he doesn't have anything and he knows it so when he posts stuff he knows the exact reaction he will get and knows he can't argue the point but does it anyhow. That's just basic wumming really.
It's odd because apart from a couple of deficiencies he seems like a pretty sound poster.
I would imagine he would be the kind of guy who would put his hand in his pocket to help out someone in front of him or give up some of his time.

He wouldn't vote to give up that money via a government though. As a country we are split between those that have a more American outlook and those that have a more European one. If I'm honest I was always a big self responsibility type of guy. I changed pretty quickly but most people aren't for changing as a rule.

 

[Phil1]

The last government were the unluckiest in history with the pandemic and the energy crisis. We were in a decent position at the start to the decade after the post financial crash recovery. Sadly the crazy last 5 years put paid to that. I fundamentally just don’t believe left of centre politics works.

They were indeed unlucky but they compounded that bad luck by consistently making wrong decisions and courted unnecessary bad press by breaking their own rules then refusing to accept mistakes.
The conservative idea of politics isn’t a bad one and can and has worked.
The shower in charge atm need to be replaced by grown ups and members more interested in benefiting the country rather than themselves.
Once that happens you might see them in power again.
As it stands they have lost the trust of the public and that’s not easy to regain.

 

[Vic]

The last government were the unluckiest in history with the pandemic and the energy crisis. We were in a decent position at the start to the decade after the post financial crash recovery. Sadly the crazy last 4/5 years put paid to that. I fundamentally just don’t believe left of centre politics works and as I keep saying the state of that front bench!

Good timing just as the Covid Inquiry tells us how unprepared the government was for a pandemic.

(Wasn't Labour unlucky with the financial crash?)

 

[Vic]

They were indeed unlucky but they compounded that bad luck by consistently making wrong decisions and courted unnecessary bad press by breaking their own rules then refusing to accept mistakes.
The conservative idea of politics isn’t a bad one and can and has worked.
The shower in charge atm need to be replaced by grown ups and members more interested in benefiting the country rather than themselves.
Once that happens you might see them in power again.
As it stands they have lost the trust of the public and that’s not easy to regain.

Thankfully they're not in charge atm

 

[west didsblue]

The last government were the unluckiest in history with the pandemic and the energy crisis. We were in a decent position at the start to the decade after the post financial crash recovery. Sadly the crazy last 4/5 years put paid to that. I fundamentally just don’t believe left of centre politics works and as I keep saying the state of that front bench!

The unluckiest in history was the last Labour government who presided over steady growth and improved public services for 10 years then lost an election in 2010 due to a global financial crisis that started in the US in 2008 and went worldwide. The Tory government fucked up the recovery, fucked up by making the EU an issue leading to a disastrous Brexit, fucked up the pandemic response and just made themselves richer whilst making most of the population poorer. The only thing they did right was their response to the Russian invasion of Ukraine.

 

[hilts]

The unluckiest in history was the last Labour government who presided over steady growth and improved public services for 10 years then lost an election in 2010 due to a global financial crisis that started in the US in 2008 and went worldwide. The Tory government fucked up the recovery, fucked up by making the EU an issue leading to a disastrous Brexit, fucked up the pandemic response and just made themselves richer whilst making most of the population poorer. The only thing they did right was their response to the Russian invasion of Ukraine.

Almost completely bang on the money that.

 

[metalblue]

Bed blocking has been a problem since i was a nurse in the 70's and 80's , it is a really difficult problem to solve but i think if it can be made less of a problem it would help and i and i am hopeful that labour will give it a good go

Maybe they can now be discharged to the newly freed up prison beds?

I just bring the ideas ;)

 

[metalblue]

They were indeed unlucky but they compounded that bad luck by consistently making wrong decisions and courted unnecessary bad press by breaking their own rules then refusing to accept mistakes.
The conservative idea of politics isn’t a bad one and can and has worked.
The shower in charge atm need to be replaced by grown ups and members more interested in benefiting the country rather than themselves.
Once that happens you might see them in power again.
As it stands they have lost the trust of the public and that’s not easy to regain.

I think that’s a very fair and balanced post.

 

[metalblue]

The unluckiest in history was the last Labour government who presided over steady growth and improved public services for 10 years then lost an election in 2010 due to a global financial crisis that started in the US in 2008 and went worldwide. The Tory government fucked up the recovery, fucked up by making the EU an issue leading to a disastrous Brexit, fucked up the pandemic response and just made themselves richer whilst making most of the population poorer. The only thing they did right was their response to the Russian invasion of Ukraine.

Take those red tinted specs off fella. Nonsense post that I can’t be arsed to pick apart.

 

[shemnel]

The work from home wankers will feel event more empowered - we are fucked! I am telling you we are fucked.

Can you attempt to quantify this or expand on it?

what is 'fucked'? falling slightly further behind in growth than the G7? people lining up on streets for bread rations?

it seems an easy phrase to throw out there, but what is 'fucked' and what can happen so quickly in 5 years to make it so?

 

[west didsblue]

Take those red tinted specs off fella. Nonsense post that I can’t be arsed to pick apart.

That’s a relief. It will save me having to pick apart your response.

 

[Manc Born & Bred]

Nonsense. Virtually all of the schools are passing on the increase to the parents.

Where is the source for that comment.

People might find this interesting https://archive.ph/bW471

 

[carlosthejackal]

That’s the point though, it’s not these people that will be disadvantaged, it will be hard working parents who sacrifice everything to give their kids a private education. At MGS around 200 boys receive a full or partial bursary so not exactly families full of doctors and lawyers. Potentially the VAT increase may now mean these kids don’t have the chance for private education. As I have said earlier because many kids will leave and join the private sector the actual amount raised isn’t huge and only one in five schools will receive one extra teacher.

 

[threespires]

I am happy as fuck mate. Just annoyed we have messed up an opportunity of recovery. Let’s hope I am wrong but I will be amazed.

Bleedin hell, if this is you happy I'd hate to see you when you're miserable :-)

 

[bluenova]

I am happy as fuck mate. Just annoyed we have messed up an opportunity of recovery. Let’s hope I am wrong but I will be amazed.

We were so close as well. The last 14 years had been leading up to the great recover, and yet, fools that we are, we bottled it at the last.

If only we'd trusted that they had a plan all along.

 

[PPT]

Where is the source for that comment.

People might find this interesting https://archive.ph/bW471

The source is my own personal experience. My daughter went to private school as did her friends. Their friends and siblings are now going to private schools. Every single one of the schools are passing the increase on. They have to. It’s virtually impossible to absorb a +20% increase in costs. A very large amount of the parents are not rich. They are working class / middle class families. Obviously there are some mega rich ones, but they really are in the minority.

 

[MCFC1993]

Very good speech from Starmer on the ECHR. Think he's had a cracking 2 weeks.

 

[Scottyboi]

The source is my own personal experience. My daughter went to private school as did her friends. Their friends and siblings are now going to private schools. Every single one of the schools are passing the increase on. They have to. It’s virtually impossible to absorb a +20% increase in costs. A very large amount of the parents are not rich. They are working class / middle class families. Obviously there are some mega rich ones, but they really are in the minority.

Love how working class now includes people who pay to privately educate their children.

 

[law74]

The source is my own personal experience. My daughter went to private school as did her friends. Their friends and siblings are now going to private schools. Every single one of the schools are passing the increase on. They have to. It’s virtually impossible to absorb a +20% increase in costs. A very large amount of the parents are not rich. They are working class / middle class families. Obviously there are some mega rich ones, but they really are in the minority.

Can they not take the fiscal advice of Lord Cameron and sell off some land or buildings?