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kaz7 said:
I suspect a fact is that you have fucked teaching along with every other public service and labour need to start from scratch
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I suspect that's what will occur in the rail industry.

New front line roles with new responsibilities whilst us old farts will be bought off or remain on our contracts until natural wastages takes effect to implement it quicker.

National collective bargaining maybe on the way back under Great British Railways. To do that they need a one size fits all new contracts for new staff when they take over the franchises otherwise it will be a farce.
 
kaz7 said:
I suspect a fact is that you have fucked teaching along with every other public service and labour need to start from scratch
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Who me? It's fuck all to do with the Teachers it's more to do with the kids parents who let the kids run wild and show no respect towards the Teachers, both my Sister and Brother in law are Teachers he got out when he was 60, she is a deputy head at a school that has close ties to City and she is packing it in this year
 
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frothy said:
Oh dear, you sad pathetic person, didn't think anyone on here could stoop so low, and people think you are a intelligent person
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I am, but not sure what relevance that has to what I posted. A huge part of my intelligence is the ability to make certain people laugh. People who ‘get’ me. Some do, many don’t. It’s no biggie that you don’t. You are in good company.

Doesn’t make you a lesser person.

Just a less enriched one.
 
bluenova said:
Why would that happen when the state sector has more spare places than the entire private sector?

Most non-partisan experts think that the numbers leaving will be fairly small, but even a dramatic exodus, of 20% of all private pupils, wouldn't even make a dent in the state sector.
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I've been out of the state sector for some time but there wasn't a school I've worked in that could have accommodated a 20% increase. And the kind of state school that could? Not particularly the ones that ex-independent attendees would want!
 
Dave Ewing's Back 'eader said:
I've been out of the state sector for some time but there wasn't a school I've worked in that could have accommodated a 20% increase. And the kind of state school that could? Not particularly the ones that ex-independent attendees would want!
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You're not talking about a single school taking 20%. Most local authorities have more spare capacity than they have private school pupils in total, as they make up a small minority of the overall school population.

In most boroughs 20% of the local private school pupils, would only be a 5% increase in the local state schools.

The spare capacity may not have been there when you were in the state sector, but it is there now, and is expected to grow over the next few years (https://www.ft.com/content/31460ce0-c0ba-4c1d-8006-43cb698234e2).

Your last point is an interesting one, that had occurred to me. I expect the Telegraph will have plenty of parents who do try and move to the state sector, complaining that they can't get into a school. The reality is likely to be that they can get into a school, but they want to get into the best state school in the area. I agree that they may well be disappointed, just as other parents are.
 
bluenova said:
You're not talking about a single school taking 20%. Most local authorities have more spare capacity than they have private school pupils in total, as they make up a small minority of the overall school population.

In most boroughs 20% of the local private school pupils, would only be a 5% increase in the local state schools.

The spare capacity may not have been there when you were in the state sector, but it is there now, and is expected to grow over the next few years (https://www.ft.com/content/31460ce0-c0ba-4c1d-8006-43cb698234e2).

Your last point is an interesting one, that had occurred to me. I expect the Telegraph will have plenty of parents who do try and move to the state sector, complaining that they can't get into a school. The reality is likely to be that they can get into a school, but they want to get into the best state school in the area. I agree that they may well be disappointed, just as other parents are.
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Don’t expect it’s any different across the UK to where I am but my teacher son was saying schools across Edinburgh are seeing a big drop off in next years Primary 1 intake and cutting classes, put down to a reduced birth rate during Covid. With prospective parents putting off starting families because of the uncertainties and job security. A drop off expected to last 2 or 3 years and feed through the system for years.
Maybe your FT mentioned it, but can’t see the article.
 
blueparrot said:
Don’t expect it’s any different across the UK to where I am but my teacher son was saying schools across Edinburgh are seeing a big drop off in next years Primary 1 intake and cutting classes, put down to a reduced birth rate during Covid. With prospective parents putting off starting families because of the uncertainties and job security. A drop off expected to last 2 or 3 years and feed through the system for years.
Maybe your FT mentioned it, but can’t see the article.
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Birth rates have been falling since around 2010. Most likely due to the economy being a shit show since around that time.
 
blueparrot said:
Yes, this drop seems is top on that, and resulted in a bigger drop from last year to next
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I know in London the impact of the pandemic was marginal. We have been discussing in London about possible need to cut schools for around a decade.

The economy, housing market and reduction in EU migrants / EU migrants returning home have all had a bigger impact.

It's happening across the world.

Capital and the emancipation of women are to blame :)
 
If there's one thing I've learnt since Labour got into office a few weeks ago, it's that... fuck me... how soft and whiny are some of these conservative types?

I know I moaned a lot over 14 years of the Tories, but I don't think I've ever become quite as abject and pathetic as some of the comments I've seen from the right - both on here and elsewhere. The softest of soft folk. Very precious and easily upset. It really is very revealing.
 
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