The British Monarchy

[Mr Kobayashi]

I'd take it all off them apart from enough to for them to go live a modest lifestyle in a new country and ban them from entering the UK for 100 years.

 

[mexico1970]

It's about time the royal family were rewarded for their thankless servitude to this country.

 

[Mr Kobayashi]

It's about time the royal family were rewarded for their thankless servitude to this country.

Yes the poor sods. It's not like they have multiple palaces in desirable postcodes or are waited on 24/7 including having someone dress them,put toothpaste on their toothbrush and wipe their arse.

 

[mexico1970]

He's a royalist sycophant, and his baiting is transparent. Ignore the pillock.

Take a knee and pay up you commie shill :)

 

[Blue and true]

I know which one I’d rather be king

I'd rather none of them were king. I'd rather live in an authentic democracy where we voted our head of state in.

 

[mexico1970]

Like I said. Pillock.

Like I said shill, the Palestine thread is missing an idiot, rectify it!

 

[Trickyblues]

I'd rather none of them were king. I'd rather live in an authentic democracy where we voted our head of state in.

True. But at the moment us plebs don’t have a choice to vote for/against the monarchy

 

[Blue and true]

True. But at the moment us plebs don’t have a choice to vote for/against the monarchy

That's literally the point I was making.

 

[TinFoilHat]

GB energy to 'partner' with the crown estate.

A nice backdoor revenue scheme for Charlie on top of his massive pay rise.

 

[Lowtower]

They are getting 2 new helicopters too.

 

[bluenova]

GB energy to 'partner' with the crown estate.

A nice backdoor revenue scheme for Charlie on top of his massive pay rise.

At some point you'd think they need to be told their share will be cut back.

It's an anachronism that he gets money from the Crown Estate "owning" the sea bed, but it's only really become an issue now that offshore wind is a big business.

 

[stonerblue]

GB energy to 'partner' with the crown estate.

A nice backdoor revenue scheme for Charlie on top of his massive pay rise.

He's a hypocritical twat. He owns the seabed. He could let them put windfarms on it for nowt.

 

[Phil1]

With the rises in utility bills one would suspect the extra 45m will just about keep the lights on..

 

[BayernMan]

With the rises in utility bills one would suspect the extra 45m will just about keep the lights on..

It must be pretty costly to heat those large homes. Thoughts and prayers.

 

[bluenova]

He's a hypocritical twat. He owns the seabed. He could let them put windfarms on it for nowt.

It's a bit more complicated I think, as The Crown Estate is technically owned by the Monarch, but is managed independently, and almost all the revenue goes to the treasury. It should change, as it's daft that they own it, but also because offshore wind means the bits of the revenue that do go to the Monarchy are now quite high.

From Labour's perspective, it could have an advantage, as there's a suggestion that it puts any borrowing "off the books", so they can bypass their fiscal rules to invest more quickly.

 

[KS55]

It's a bit more complicated I think, as The Crown Estate is technically owned by the Monarch, but is managed independently, and almost all the revenue goes to the treasury. It should change, as it's daft that they own it, but also because offshore wind means the bits of the revenue that do go to the Monarchy are now quite high.

From Labour's perspective, it could have an advantage, as there's a suggestion that it puts any borrowing "off the books", so they can bypass their fiscal rules to invest more quickly.

It’s one of those typically British legal fictions like the royal prerogative. The monarch has no say in the finances of the Crown Estate. Cameron increased the percentage that went to the monarch’s expenses. As the total take of the Crown estate has increased, so the current gov may reduce the portion handed over.

 

[stonerblue]

It's a bit more complicated I think, as The Crown Estate is technically owned by the Monarch, but is managed independently, and almost all the revenue goes to the treasury. It should change, as it's daft that they own it, but also because offshore wind means the bits of the revenue that do go to the Monarchy are now quite high.

From Labour's perspective, it could have an advantage, as there's a suggestion that it puts any borrowing "off the books", so they can bypass their fiscal rules to invest more quickly.

'Technically owned by the monarch"

 

[stonerblue]

It’s one of those typically British legal fictions like the royal prerogative. The monarch has no say in the finances of the Crown Estate. Cameron increased the percentage that went to the monarch’s expenses. As the total take of the Crown estate has increased, so the current gov may reduce the portion handed over.

Owns it though eh..

 

[KS55]

Owns it though eh..

The problem is that ‘democratic monarchy’ is an oxymoron. So we pretend to have a monarch with overarching powers but those powers are exercised by the PM. Similarly, we say we are a democracy, but the head of state cannot be arraigned in his own courts, ie is above the law. I believe the US is currently having a bit of a problem in this area.

 

[Gremlin]

The problem is that ‘democratic monarchy’ is an oxymoron. So we pretend to have a monarch with overarching powers but those powers are exercised by the PM. Similarly, we say we are a democracy, but the head of state cannot be arraigned in his own courts, ie is above the law. I believe the US is currently having a bit of a problem in this area.

The monarch is supposed to act as a apolitical figurehead and as long as they take no part in any decision making (something the Queen did quite well - jury is out on Charlie as he has form in making his views known) then it generally works as it separates the implementation of laws (acting on behalf of the crown) with the creation of laws (a political act via parliament). It allows, for instance, the military to swear allegiance to the monarch who remains constant even as governments of different persuasions come and go. In the US, they get around that by swearing allegiance to the flag rather than the president.