PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

[bobbyowenquiff]

Because they had the temerity to win the league ahead of cartel simp club Spurs.

Leicester are accused of getting a sporting advantage for the season they were relegated. Some sort of collective madness has overtaken the PL leadership. Who is paying for all these legal battles. And still the PSR rules take no account of debt.

 

[give it to gordon]

A complete fiasco. None of these clubs have broken any law. They have not gone bust or failed to pay their debts. They have just shown ambition and invested in their business. Leicester have done great things in their local community. Why are they being persecuted along with City?

Hopefully more and more people will realise before the pl collapses.
Ffp and psr have nothing to do with sustainability it's all about keeping the cartel at the top.

 

[pauls]

Because they had the temerity to win the league ahead of cartel simp club Spurs.

As long as investment is forbidden there's a good chance that the three teams coming up will go straight back down, so your Palaces,Brentford,Brighton,Fulham etc will vote with the cartel to preserve their 150m payouts every season from Dick Masters. This was one of City's beefs at the APT hearing I would suggest.

 

[Prophet of Doom]

As long as investment is forbidden there's a good chance that the three teams coming up will go straight back down, so your Palaces,Brentford,Brighton,Fulham etc will vote with the cartel to preserve their 150m payouts every season from Dick Masters. This was one of City's beefs at the APT hearing I would suggest.

Tyranny of the majority. The teams you mention don’t want any ambitious clubs coming up and threatening their place on the gravy train.

Heard the Palace Chairman moaning that teams should follow the rules - which is quite easy for a team on the PL gravy train happy to finish between 12th to 17th every season confident that the teams coming are restricted and doomed to go down.

Masters has created a league where the Championship champions have to sell their best players and look forward to 2 x separate points deductions and go straight back down.

So called ‘best league in the world’

 

[Beaker]

“What are the Premier League trying to fix” Simon asks? It’s bleeding obvious. Everybody else’s spending has been restricted whilst Manchester United are given £75 million worth of allowances so they can spend spend spend.

I’d say read between the lines but you don’t have to Simon, the answer is staring you in your orange fucking face!!!

 

[KS55]

For those that want to be an expert in football finance..it only takes 12 weeks and £1800..

Wonder how many of the experts did this course?

Harris was first in the queue.

 

[waspish]

“What are we fixing, what was broken” pleads Simon querying the logic behind the introduction of PSR.

This from the **** who for years has been saying likkle City are ruining the PL by winning it every year.

Yep us city fans new what was happening ten years ago and where it's was heading!

How that twat Gill never gets a mention for rushing these rules in the premier and consistently changing them to hamper us plus sometimes benefiting his teams I've no idea!? The mans a slimy two faced twat

 

[remember arthur mann]

Who came first ,jackhorny or horny jack?

 

[KS55]

I see Jordan is turning into prime Martin Samuel. How embarrassing for him after the bollocks he has spouted for so many years.

Tbf, he said he was wrong and was naive and he now feels PSR (as it is) isn't achieving any good for the game. He also says the PL needs leadership to decide what it wants financial regulation to achieve and how.

On YouTube as part of @slbsn 's talks this morning. He must have been reading Bluemoon :)

There is more joy in heaven when a sinner repents.

 

[waspish]

Tyranny of the majority. The teams you mention don’t want any ambitious clubs coming up and threatening their place on the gravy train.

Heard the Palace Chairman moaning that teams should follow the rules - which is quite easy for a team on the PL gravy train happy to finish between 12th to 17th every season confident that the teams coming are restricted and doomed to go down.

Masters has created a league where the Championship champions have to sell their best players and look forward to 2 x separate points deductions and go straight back down.

So called ‘best league in the world’

Yep and why Parry was put in charge of the 72 league clubs to see over the PSR for all the clubs! There is to many red cartel people in high positions controlling the game to benefit there clubs

 

[Gone for a Burton]

As long as investment is forbidden there's a good chance that the three teams coming up will go straight back down, so your Palaces,Brentford,Brighton,Fulham etc will vote with the cartel to preserve their 150m payouts every season from Dick Masters. This was one of City's beefs at the APT hearing I would suggest.

'The gutless shithousery of the minority'.

No sporting ambition, pride or integrity....but City are ruining football.

The long game played by the club is now in its 14th/15th year, and now just maybe, the scales are being lifted from some of our detractors eyes.

The irrational consequences of many of the red cartel influenced laws, are becoming clearer to an increasing number of clubs and fans.

The number of clubs in conflict & litigation with the PL is just one indicator of discord and distrust.

The unintended consequences of the ill thought out PSR rule may just be the wake up call.

Much of this is coming together in a delta leading up to our hearing.

It is SO important that City are cleared of all significant charges, forcing a beneficial change at the PL, and allowing common sense and sporting ability to be front and centre of the game.

Hopefully, the wider game will recognise the wisdom and fortitude of the Sheikh & Kool Hand ....and the malignant intentions of the red yank cartel.

 

[pauls]

Tyranny of the majority. The teams you mention don’t want any ambitious clubs coming up and threatening their place on the gravy train.

Heard the Palace Chairman moaning that teams should follow the rules - which is quite easy for a team on the PL gravy train happy to finish between 12th to 17th every season confident that the teams coming are restricted and doomed to go down.

Masters has created a league where the Championship champions have to sell their best players and look forward to 2 x separate points deductions and go straight back down.

So called ‘best league in the world’

Parish Interestingly mentioned the "alleged " Independent panel can be challenged in the high court which occurred with one of his ex Managers so any attempted shenanigans should be seized on by Pannick and Co.

 

[Gingers Dad]

I work for a bookmakers and can guarantee even if found guilty and relegated we wouldn't pay out as there would be an immediate appeal by the club. That would drag on for a year or 2 at most by which time the industry would have to void all bets on that market otherwise every bookmaker would be slapped with some sort of fine from the Gambling Commission. The industry is damned if they do offer the market and damned if they don't

Has Fred Done paid out on utd winning the league yet?

 

[ufo]

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[johncity]

A complete fiasco. None of these clubs have broken any law. They have not gone bust or failed to pay their debts. They have just shown ambition and invested in their business. Leicester have done great things in their local community. Why are they being persecuted along with City?

Owners not yanks surprise

 

[hallsteve62]

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[Bodicoteblue]

Bang on there @Gazza. There was a bloke on facebooks football insider page who insisted he worked in a bookie’s and that City being 12/1 to get relegated must be evidence of some guilt.
Ycnmiu.

That’s a real mug price.
Under normal circumstances City would be around 2,000/1 for relegation,
so 12/1 or smaller must be seen as such a massive contraction as to prove guilt.
Pile on to a good thing that has shrunk from 2,000’s to 12’s ……must be loads of clever money on that!!
Bookies ain’t stupid.
Mugs and their money are soon parted.

 

[blueste41]

Make the odds look like there's a chance of relegation and droves of idiots chuck money at them.

Deluded hope/enticing odds etc. if we were 2000/1 they'd take nothing, making us 12's makes it seem possible and after all surely everyone knows we're guilty. A winning return must be guaranteed, hell it's almost free money.

A fantastic moneymaker for the bookies.

I'm a betting trader, we don't set the odds you do by choosing which outcome to put your money on. The more money that goes on a particular outcome the lower the odds of that outcome becomes. It has to be that way because we work on something called an overround, essentially this means the odds are adjusted so whatever the actual outcome is we make the same profit.
The difference in odds of us winning the league and being relegated are irrelevant because those two markets are independent of each other.
The true odds of a market are more indicative at betting exchanges where the odds are set by traders buying and selling each side of the market at a price others are willing to accept (in much the same way stocks are bought and sold).
If you look at the trades for the two markets you mention you will see that they are not that dissimilar to the odds at the bookies.
https://www.betfair.com/exchange/plus/football/market/1.229393513
The truth of it is that if we were 2000/1 we would have taken on a lot more liability than we have, people would have then layed off their bets at the exchange for a huge profit and currently be sunning themselves on their private island in the Caribbean!

 

[Stoned Rose]

I'm a betting trader, we don't set the odds you do by choosing which outcome to put your money on. The more money that goes on a particular outcome the lower the odds of that outcome becomes. It has to be that way because we work on something called an overround, essentially this means the odds are adjusted so whatever the actual outcome is we make the same profit.
The difference in odds of us winning the league and being relegated are irrelevant because those two markets are independent of each other.
The true odds of a market are more indicative at betting exchanges where the odds are set by traders buying and selling each side of the market at a price others are willing to accept (in much the same way stocks are bought and sold).
If you look at the trades for the two markets you mention you will see that they are not that dissimilar to the odds at the bookies.
https://www.betfair.com/exchange/plus/football/market/1.229393513

There are a few on here who really need to read this.

 

[blueste41]

That’s a real mug price.
Under normal circumstances City would be around 2,000/1 for relegation,
so 12/1 or smaller must be seen as such a massive contraction as to prove guilt.
Pile on to a good thing that has shrunk from 2,000’s to 12’s ……must be loads of clever money on that!!
Bookies ain’t stupid.
Mugs and their money are soon parted.

It doesn't prove guilt it's basically a public opinion poll, see above.