Banning smoking in beer gardens

Coatigan said:
Vapes are electronic cigarettes. Which when announced as prohibited is then breaking rules the rest decide to go by. People that chose to do it are pricks. Some might ignore it, some will ask them to stop. It is good when they do.

Banning smoking in beer gardens is a step for the better, I am all for it.
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I would go on to ban people that have consumed alcohol from being in the public. That drug causes so much harm to others.
 
Have you ever been sat in a garden on a nice sunny day, minding your own business and enjoying a nice smoke when along come beer drinkers and spoil the calm, relaxed atmosphere?
 
Blue Mist said:
How many obese people keep eating shit and yet the NHS psy for them ? Does it make it any better if 87% are fatties and 13% are taking care of them through taxes. I'd ban McDonald's and the rest before I'd ban smoking in beer gardens
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It's a tricky one. I became obese while working just by sitting still at my desk all day, as well as a round commute of 3 hours sat down on the train each day. I actually ate quite healthily, but I just wasn't burning off what I was eating, and it crept up on me over the years.
When I retired, my priority was to lose some weight as well as getting fit and staying fit, and I'm still heading in the right direction.
In terms of fast food, I think the biggest current issue is delivery services, so some people don't even get the exercise walking to the takeaway before stuffing themselves with crap.
 
staffsblue said:
It's a tricky one. I became obese while working just by sitting still at my desk all day, as well as a round commute of 3 hours sat down on the train each day. I actually ate quite healthily, but I just wasn't burning off what I was eating, and it crept up on me over the years.
When I retired, my priority was to lose some weight as well as getting fit and staying fit, and I'm still heading in the right direction.
In terms of fast food, I think the biggest current issue is delivery services, so some people don't even get the exercise walking to the takeaway before stuffing themselves with crap.
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Marklr said:
I would go on to ban people that have consumed alcohol from being in the public. That drug causes so much harm to others.
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Sure, if it was, the same would apply though. Alcohol is banned on certain trains and at certain times. So while there is no legal overarching ban on it as a whole, you would be breaking the rules if you opened a tinnie on one after 9pm. You would be asked to bin it. Like you were with your vape. Which is where we started here. You could be an arse about it, or you could be reasonable.
 
Mad Eyed Screamer said:
Florida has a rule that as long as the pub doesn't cook / serve food on the premises, then smoking is permitted.
My local dive bar right on the Alafia River is one such place.
I don't mind it as it usually has both main amd side door (leading to the covered outdoor area) open and there are four or five ceiling fans on all the time.
There is a trailer attached to the site where food is cooked and served and if you so wish you can eat it inside the pub, most eat it outside.
It took me a while to get used to being inside but I don't mind it when there's just a few lighting up and if THE GORGEOUS SARAH is behind the bar. When the air gets a little heavy then I'm outside
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As someone who claims to be some kind of quiz legend, I'm surprised you can't even remember one of the most basic of bluemoon rules.
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Coatigan said:
Sure, if it was, the same would apply though. Alcohol is banned on certain trains and at certain times. So while there is no legal overarching ban on it as a whole, you would be breaking the rules if you opened a tinnie on one after 9pm. You would be asked to bin it. Like you were with your vape. Which is where we started here. You could be an arse about it, or you could be reasonable.
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Nah..i mean people that have drank in pubs should not be allowed back into public until they have sobered up. They cause much more harm and distress to the public than any vaper can. Have you ever been sat on a bus when somebody that has consumed alcohol gets on and sits next to you? They stink and are embarrassing. Sometimes even aggressive.
 
Marklr said:
Nah..i mean people that have drank in pubs should not be allowed back into public until they have sobered up. They cause much more harm and distress to the public than any vaper can. Have you ever been sat on a bus when somebody that has consumed alcohol gets on and sits next to you? They stink and are embarrassing. Sometimes even aggressive.
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Laws against antisocial behaviour exist. Drunk or otherwise. People behaving so in beer gardens get chucked out too.
 
staffsblue said:
It's a tricky one. I became obese while working just by sitting still at my desk all day, as well as a round commute of 3 hours sat down on the train each day. I actually ate quite healthily, but I just wasn't burning off what I was eating, and it crept up on me over the years.
When I retired, my priority was to lose some weight as well as getting fit and staying fit, and I'm still heading in the right direction.
In terms of fast food, I think the biggest current issue is delivery services, so some people don't even get the exercise walking to the takeaway before stuffing themselves with crap.
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I was the same for awhile. What I'm against is the nanny state that is creeping/rushing in. I'm a non smoker, I know how bad it is but junk food which is all some people eat seems beyond criticism. I mentioned earlier the 20mph in Wales, of course it saves lives. When your crawling along in a queue only a blind man could get knocked over. Where does it end ?
Finally we save everyone's life, make it miserable then moan when they are dribbling in a home and we can't afford to pay carers.
 
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Really_here said:
I think this is taking things a step too far, I smoke (and have done for over 50 years and having paid all the ludicrous tax hikes and rather than being a bloody burden on the NHS I think I've contributed more than enough!) and am aware it's not healthy but where is the freedom of choice? I still maintain that pubs should be able to allow smoking inside the pub never mind the beer gardens. No-one is umaware of the health risks so if a pub chooses to allow smoking and people don't like it then go elsewhere to a pub that doesn't allow it?
Driving is dangerous (for innocent pedestrians as well as drivers), when are we going to ban cars and buses?
It infuriates me that one hand we have shop lifting being given the green light thanks to the police ignoring it and people convicted of knife crime etc getting an automatic 50% off etc etc etc plus billions of pounds to pay benefits to people who've never contributed taxes we have the time and money to try and stop people having a smoke in the open air!!
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Smokers stink!
 
hilts said:
Can't admit you were wrong so I didn't read the rest.

A hole doesn't appear you know, we all mistakes.
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Because I am not wrong. But you go ahead and try quote the Vaping Association as you get chucked out a plane, train station, hospital etc. while the wider public around considers you an arsehole, and you proudly don't care. That's life.
 
Marklr said:
Breath test the public. If they're over the limit in the street, fine them. Nuisances. It's the alcohol..it can turn gentle normal people into psychos. Very dangerous for others.
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Cool. Start a campaign. Tbf we might gradually get there anyway.

In the meantime, ban smoking in beer gardens, enforce a ban on vaping where it is stated so, and it improves it for the majority. All good.
 
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