Banning smoking in beer gardens

[BlueMoonRisin’]

Do you only smoke standing up? Not being facetious btw. It is fine saying people just wont stand next to you while you smoke, but when you are sat back to back with a non smoker it becomes a whole other thing.

I get what you are saying. There will be people that similarly like the freedom of choice of drinking/eating outside and not being smoked on. The government will weigh up their percentages, they won't want to make any decision that might be unpopular.

I have said all along if there is a way to do both, no issue at all. But places will need a push, and even if the discussion itself encourages some to do it on their own accord, great.

Do you smoke in your own house/flat out of interest? Obviously perfectly entitled to, just wondering. Almost none of my smoker friends do, they all step outside their own homes for a smoke. They won't mind the beer garden ban one bit.

I'll ignore you asking if I only smoke standing up bollox.

Smoked on? : /

Don't be silly now.

 

[hilts]

Don't know if you smoke or vape, but you are full of hot air either way. And fuck all else. Well done on giving up glue sniffing. Explains your itch for meaningless narratives.

I do neither as stated but comprehension is not your str...... shit

I'm.gonna need a bigger dictionary

 

[Coatigan]

I do neither as stated but comprehension is not your str...... shit

I'm.gonna need a bigger dictionary

Meh, you've bored even yourself out of a discussion now.

 

[MCFC Wirral]

food makes more money to pay extortionate rents. before long they'll be eateries where you have a 1 or 2 drink limit with food, so rowdy drinkers don't pollute the family friendly environment.

I went to The Mersey Clipper next to Tranmere’s ground to eat and then watch the Germany v Scotland match that opened the Euros.

As soon as my food was eaten, I got up and took my pint to the bar area as the family across from me were making too much noise and couldn’t control their children. Other eaters complained too.

It’s very busy on match day so there’s their crowd. I’d never go back.

 

[Mr Kobayashi]

Logical response? Not sure what you mean tbh.

Because rather than ignore it you had to react childishly and smoke more. You were spiting yourself not her.

Yes, right now my life is improved by smoking, thanks for asking : )

It's not. You know that. It's worth contacting your local stop smoking service. They might even give you free Nicotine replacement products. These are non-statutory services. If you wait, they might not be available.

 

[Johnny Mars Bar]

I was half asleep

Should've had your morning ciggie mate.

 

[Johnny Mars Bar]

the pub is ever changing.... many have closed and lots are now rebranding and bringing in fancy menus. food makes more money to pay extortionate rents. before long they'll be eateries where you have a 1 or 2 drink limit with food, so rowdy drinkers don't pollute the family friendly environment. supporting these proposed laws, even if it is banning smoking a ciggie outside in the garden, will inevitably kill culture and the very essence of a public house. Bought my first pack at a pub ciggie machine... snuck in with my fake moustache and pocket full of guineas, no fake vapes back then, a real plant based diet.

A "substantial meal", one might argue hahaha

 

[Johnny Mars Bar]

I think you're a **** because you'd like to take away my freedom of choice to smoke in a beer garden.

For the record I think everyone on here is a **** but it's got nothing to do with smoking.

 

[hilts]

Meh, you've bored even yourself out of a discussion now.

Nah just bored of your stupidity, least we know one thing smoking doesn't make someone a moron or you would ge on a 100 fags a day.

Back to the dot for you.

 

[hilts]

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[BlueMoonRisin’]

Because tather than ignore it you had to react childishly and smoke more. You were spiting yourself not her.



It's not. You know that. It's worth contacting your local stop smoking service. They might even give you free Nicotine replacement products. These are non-statutory services. If you wait, they might not be available.

I react childishly when non smoking cunts preach to me wanting me to stop smoking and (more importantly) stop smoking in a beer garden. I had no problem whatsoever having to smoke outside when the smoking ban started. However, I have a problem with not being able to smoke in a beer garden, especially by those making pathetic excuses that they might smell a bit of smoke. Well move well away from me then you clean smelling cunts because I'm a fuckin' big smoking leper that will blow smoke in your face when I'm told what to do!

I have a cupboard full of patches, chewing gum and lozenges but I'm not ready to stop. And I'll stop when I choose to stop, not when some preaching **** tells me to stop.

 

[SarleyV]

A "substantial meal", one might argue hahaha

flashbacks....

 

[SarleyV]

I went to The Mersey Clipper next to Tranmere’s ground to eat and then watch the Germany v Scotland match that opened the Euros.

As soon as my food was eaten, I got up and took my pint to the bar area as the family across from me were making too much noise and couldn’t control their children. Other eaters complained too.

It’s very busy on match day so there’s their crowd. I’d never go back.

haha I'd do the same! back outside with the smokers and footy on big screen

 

[Mr Kobayashi]

I react childishly when non smoking cunts preach to me wanting me to stop smoking and (more importantly) stop smoking in a beer garden. I had no problem whatsoever having to smoke outside when the smoking ban started. However, I have a problem with not being able to smoke in a beer garden, especially by those making pathetic excuses that they might smell a bit of smoke. Well move well away from me then you clean smelling cunts because I'm a fuckin' big smoking leper that will blow smoke in your face when I'm told what to do!

People are telling you this for your own good. If you want to act like a child that's on you.

I have a cupboard full of patches, cheering gum and lozenges but I'm not ready to stop. And I'll stop when I choose to stop, not when some preaching **** tells me to stop.

Time waits for no man and those products have expiry dates.

Makes no difference to me if you want to act like Kevin the Teenager and smoke yourself in to an early grave because you can.

You should stop as soon as you can, if you get lung cancer or have a piece of your tongue removed it will only be one person's fault.

 

[Johnny Mars Bar]

Some people while furiously typing on this thread

 

[Johnny Mars Bar]

On a serious note I’m an old school liberal that broadly believes the government should get out of people’s lives and focus their energy on the global macro issues and the economy, but smoking is pretty gross and anything that can nudge it into the direction of being consigned to the past can only be a good thing.

People kicked off about seat belts and banning drink driving at first. In hindsight…fuckin good ideas I think we all agree.

 

[Coatigan]

On a serious note I’m an old school liberal that broadly believes the government should get out of people’s lives and focus their energy on the global macro issues and the economy, but smoking is pretty gross and anything that can nudge it into the direction of being consigned to the past can only be a good thing.

People kicked off about seat belts and banning drink driving at first. In hindsight…fuckin good ideas I think we all agree.

And neither of those are enforceable.

 

[BlueMoonRisin’]

People are telling you this for your own good. If you want to act like a child that's on you.




Time waits for no man and those products have expiry dates.

Makes no difference to me if you want to act like Kevin the Teenager and smoke yourself in to an early grave because you can.

You should stop as soon as you can, if you get lung cancer or have a piece of your tongue removed it will only be one person's fault.

I'm not acting like a child but I am fuckin' sick of people telling me what to do and what not to do. I used to take drugs, mainly weed and LSD(sometimes mushrooms) but i haven't taken LSD for 40 years because I took too many drugs and drink that it fucked me up to becoming sectioned, I learnt my lesson. Last time I had a joint was almost 3 years ago athough I still have a small amount in an air tight container just incase I need a smoke to help me sleep because I suffer incessant acute tinnitus, and weed helps. I don't condone illegal drugs but I don't preach to people(especially friends) not to take drugs because they make a conscious decision to and it's their freedom of choice to.

If it made no difference to you then you wouldn't need to be a busy **** telling me to stop smoking because I am intelligent enough to know that smoking is detrimental to my health. But smoking is a far harder addiction to quit than quitting drink and drugs IMO.

 

[Blue Llama]

On a serious note I’m an old school liberal that broadly believes the government should get out of people’s lives and focus their energy on the global macro issues and the economy, but smoking is pretty gross and anything that can nudge it into the direction of being consigned to the past can only be a good thing.

People kicked off about seat belts and banning drink driving at first. In hindsight…fuckin good ideas I think we all agree.

I cannot believe that you aquaint wearing a seat belt with smoking in a beer garden. Wearing a seat belt has no other impact other than better safety for the wearer. Banning smoking outside a pub has. No one is going to smoke less, they will just smoke somewhere else. Resulting in even fewer drinking in pubs and more pub being closed..

 

[Johnny Mars Bar]

And neither of those are enforceable.

Yeah drink driving laws are totally unenforceable, nobody’s ever been charged with it.