Referees’ Performances | 2024/2025

Oliver stops a City corner to speak to both Arsenal and City about grappling. Allows the corner to come in and whilst it does Rodri is manhandled by Partey, no penalty and the corner is retaken (again).

Arsenal then break and win a soft free kick. Oliver calls Walker over and whilst he's out of position allows Arsenal to play it quickly leaving our fucking right back out of position. Arsenal score and then score again.

The idea that him correctly sending off Trossard for kicking the ball away after he's twatted Bernardo is hilarious.
 
Phil1 said:
You lot? I know you love to be the voice of reason but fuck me you’d have to do some mental gymnastics to not see we had some shite decisions against us today.
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Eddie downed at their second goal, Haaland constantly tackled with hands 'n arms, and we had Savinho blatantly tripped where he ends up kneeling with arms out in some kind of WTF response to Oliver ignoring a blatant foul.
 
JRockBlues said:
On USA coverage they were basically saying that PiGMOL were making it up as they go along for the red card. The instruction to/from VAR was that the 2nd yellow was for a forceful challenge but then they changed it during halftime to kicking the ball away. None of the pundits thought that the foul on Bernardo was worthy of a 2nd yellow as it was going to spoil the game. When has spoiling the game been a decisive factor in whether a booking is due or not? Muppets.

Oliver really hasn't got a clue on how to manage big games and he really shouldn't be given them anymore. The holding and general shithousery at set pieces is beyond a joke now. What's the point in talking to a player and then just let them keep on doing exactly the same thing (Timber on Akanji).

Was expecting at least double figures for the amount of added time and to only get 7 (which then increased to 8 because of more time-wasting) was another joke. Just glad we had teh last laugh.
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Rags have had that cop out for years.
 
Streetsweeper said:
If Oliver is the best we can muster, we should try training capuchin monkeys to do it .
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He’s normally good, today he was terrible.

How can you call both captains over to the half way line, leaving ours 40 yards out of position and allow the opposition to take a quick free kick to exploit that?

He looked shell shocked after it, Walker sort of hugged him after our team had berated him, I think he knew he’d dropped a clanger.
I reckon it’s the reason he gave Trossard the second booking without hesitation for me to even it up.

But worse than any of that, the way he just stopped play for Arsenal players cheating and pretending to be injured was disgraceful. They weren’t head injuries so play the fuck on. One of them he told the lad to get up, he didn’t, then stopped play.

Awful from someone I rate as a ref.
 
TinFoilHat said:
If anyone has the game on SkyQ can you rewind it to just after the first minute rodri incident.

I'm sure Drury just admitted Sky communicate with VAR and Brooks told him fuck all was done because he though rodders was "making a meal of it"?
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It's (supposedly) a one-way communication. Broadcasters can hear the VAR feed but the VAR officials don't get the commentary.
 
Ah well, after a few games of what I thought were reasonable referee performances, I suppose it was inevitable we would get a fuck up.

Not sure it was anything to do with bias, I just think he fucked up. A yellow card in the first few seconds may have set a tone.

I would really like to know what game management instructions the referee's get before big games like this.

He made the wrong decision with their first goal and knew it. Seemed to even it up with the red, was generally poor on time wasting and couldn't impose his authority on the game. Medical staff running on the pitch without permission summed it up. Weak.

Still, not much damage done. Do we know who is reffing Newcastle yet?
 
Interesting the views on this referees forum.

Well I'm afraid Michael Oliver has made a rod for his own back there. Fail safe when he brings Walker in to speak to him has to be to make sure he is back in position - same as with a substitution.

I think he will be kicking himself on that one - of course Walker should be smarter in getting back quickly, but it's an avoidable problem.

The Trossard sending off in contrast is 100% player stupidity
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And this is a forum that actually has Michael Oliver fans. The substitution analogy is an excellent one. If there was a free kick and we substituted a defender just before it was taken, the referee wouldn't then allow a quick free kick before the player had got into their position. Otherwise every time a team substituted a player at a corner, the attacking team would just take it quickly before the new player had reached the box.

Also something I brought up earlier too:

I actually think when a player goes down injured, like Raya did, there should be a "zone" that players can't go in to or they have to go into that's nowhere near coaches.
As you said, it is blatant killing time and tactical changes considering how Arsenal are not even in this second half.
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I'm With Stupid said:
And they key word there is decisions. These twats get one decision go against them and you never hear the end of it. Meanwhile almost every other decision in the match goes in their favour.
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Most of the socials sports page have Oliver mocked up in a City shirt. Or a headline saying he was our best player. Arsenal fans most likely.

Oliver was just terrible in general.
 
LangleyBlue1970 said:
Most of the socials sports page have Oliver mocked up in a City shirt. Or a headline saying he was our best player. Arsenal fans most likely.

Oliver was just terrible in general.
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Oliver tries to exude the notion that he sits above the game, an aloofness, a detached but solid hand on the tiller. It's an illusion. He allows blatant fouls to go unpunished - Savinho's trip in front of CBL and Eddie fouled at their second goal - and any contact that terminates with a red shirt on the floor is, by its nature, a foul. The unfortunate thing for fans and the game is that the arbitrators and administrators will have yesterday's performance down as strong refereeing. He, like every other ref I've seen, is inadequate, even with the added benefit of VAR they are inadequate. It's political refereeing that attempts to avoid controversy as the first aim rather than applying the LotG as they are written. Won't be long before games are settled post-match by a bunch of lawyers.
 
The problem is England. Ye are just shit at refereeing, video assisting and Premier League officiating.

Get in some Johnny Foreigners. So what if they take yer women.
 
LangleyBlue1970 said:
Most of the socials sports page have Oliver mocked up in a City shirt. Or a headline saying he was our best player. Arsenal fans most likely.

Oliver was just terrible in general.
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Still amazes me how anyone can think that, all started because he appeared in Saudi once. I absolutely loathe Oliver. How can anyone watch Arsenal's 2 goals and still think Oliver is "our referee".

Go further back with the Liverpool showdowns, and the penalties for Salah's dives. Everytime he refs one of our big games, you can count on controversies to happen.

Bewildered how Oliver continues to get to ref big games.
 
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