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Good work by labour. An estimated £200m will go to workers rather than businesses and shareholders die to this new law.

I always ask if they get the tips before giving one, I’m all for them sharing amongst kitchen staff etc but not with the companies bottom line. More and more places are just adding it these days.
 
These are some of the people who during covid were risking life and limb looking after patients even though the equipment supplied wasn’t up to the job and they’d had an erosion of their pay and were on less money with inflation than they were 14 years before.
Sometimes people standing at their front door clapping just doesn’t cut it.
I didn’t agree with the clapping nonsense either, as I thought it was patronising.

However the 35% pay rise demand was unjustified in my opinion, not least because it was calculated using RPI. RPI is a flawed measure of inflation and typically overstates price growth by around 0.75 to 1%-pt each year - a key distorting factor when looking over a period of ten, fifteen years - and so using this measure wasn’t a realistic choice for negotiation.
 
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Why did they strike in June, a few days prior to the election, when the government couldn’t have negotiated with them or agreed to a deal even if they had wanted to?

Do you think the timing was entirely coincidental?
i think they were on strike for two years and the tories wouldnt even sit down with them, a minister hadnt been in the room for months so them striking in june was of no consequence
 
Why did they strike in June, a few days prior to the election, when the government couldn’t have negotiated with them or agreed to a deal even if they had wanted to?

Do you think the timing was entirely coincidental?
Probably because they were so pissed off with the Tories lack of engagement, they wanted to ensure a wipe out at the election.

The Government had numerous opportunities to negotiate with them but flatly refused, why was that?
 
I didn’t agree with the clapping nonsense either, as I thought it was patronising.

However the 35% pay rise demand was unjustified in my opinion, not least because it was calculated using RPI. RPI is a flawed measure of inflation and typically overstates price growth by around 0.75 to 1%-pt each year - a key distorting factor when looking over a period of ten, fifteen years - and so using this measure wasn’t a realistic choice for negotiation.

Fancy a tory being offended by anything patronising !

It's their normal modus operandi as self-serving liars.
 
They should bring in legislation where restaurants can’t put service charge on stating it’s optional, the option should be you give it nit ask for it to be taken off. They’ve slowly started increasing it as well think it’s around 12.5%, I’m out Saturday I’m asking for mine not to be added as I give 10% and in cash, people are getting fucking greedy now, it’s expensive enough to eat and drink and I don’t mind paying for food service but 10% is plenty, £15 on my bill is plenty enough in my opinion.

I went to New York for 5 days, found a good boozer off 5th Ave to spend the evening relaxing(ie getting pissed) after walking all day
Think I sent that barman's kids through college with tips.

I'm like you 10% cash in restaurants. If they're moody fuckers 5%.

Card payments must be killing bar staff though.
 
I went to New York for 5 days, found a good boozer off 5th Ave to spend the evening relaxing(ie getting pissed) after walking all day
Think I sent that barman's kids through college with tips.

I'm like you 10% cash in restaurants. If they're moody fuckers 5%.

Card payments must be killing bar staff though.
Ye in my local I always use card so hardly tip, but if we win the quiz or the play your cards right we slip them a tenner. If I go for a meal there I always make it up on the card.
 
Lets wait until next year to see if the pay deal has plicated junior doctors. If we get no further strike action and the pay rises going forwards are there or there abouts the CPI rate, then its definitely a great success and something the Tories failed to do.

If not and the threats restart re strike action and demands for above CPI wage rises then its acting like an Arsenal supporter and saying the league has been won in December.

As I said before unless they crash the economy, when there is a change of party they deserve at least a decent honeymoon period to see how it works out.
 
Probably because they were so pissed off with the Tories lack of engagement, they wanted to ensure a wipe out at the election.

The Government had numerous opportunities to negotiate with them but flatly refused, why was that?
How did the government manage to agree a deal with the consultants, if there was a lack of engagement?

Perhaps because the consultants didn’t construct a spurious pay demand designed to obstruct proper negotiation.
 
How did the government manage to agree a deal with the consultants, if there was a lack of engagement?

Perhaps because the consultants didn’t construct a spurious pay demand designed to obstruct proper negotiation.
Because we’re discussing the Junior Drs, not the consultants. Labour have within two weeks negotiated and agreed a pay deal which was nowhere near what they were demanding.

Perhaps if the Tories weren’t so pig headed, they could have done this and saved a lot of unnecessary misery
 

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