Middle East Conflict

The blue phantom said:
Just as bad as Biden this Labour Party. Fuckin monsters the lot of them. Kids being burned alive in Gaza and these cunts are still goin on about Iran. Not a fuckin dickie bird on the war crimes.
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It's not just the labour party and it's no coincidence that Starmer who ties the pro Israel line is in number 10 and Jeremy Corbyn who dared to question Israeli foreign policy is in the wilderness.
 
Mazzarelli's Swiss Cheese said:
It's not just the labour party and it's no coincidence that Starmer who ties the pro Israel line is in number 10 and Jeremy Corbyn who dared to question Israeli foreign policy is in the wilderness.
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Tory Alan duncan came out months ago and said there are people very high up who have put israels interests ahead of those of our country:



And was put under investigation for his comments:



It didn't matter whether labour or the tories won this election, both would have continued with this monstrous genocide, such is the Israeli influence throughout both parties (and seemingly throughout the media going off the deplorable way that this genocide has been reported)

In other news, looks like this was the poor fella who can be seen in the videos screaming for help as he burned alive after israels latest massacre and cowardly bombing of palestinian civilians in tents:

 
Don Karleone said:
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"We want you to stop starving 400,000 civilians to death....in 30 days"

Yep something very not right about it is there. Not sure if it's because of the US election and they know some people wont vote for the genocide (so they're pretending they'll do something about it after the election), or if he's just giving israel plenty of time to continue to murder as many people as they can. Either way it's completely unreasonable and total bullshit and israel will continue it's barbaric genocide for the foreseeable. Shame

In other news, interesting to see western media finally pick up on israel using civilians as human shields:



They've a long history of it apparently

Every accusation israel makes is a confession.
 
inbetween said:
The real danger that has come to exist is that the Israeli government is going farther than ever before. They're becoming ever more extreme in the sense that this isn't even about terrorism anymore. It's about messaging to the Arab world that Israel cannot be touched and they'll do whatever they want.

At this stage even arms restrictions aren't going to cut it. That would achieve a ceasefire but in the end this whole problem fundamentally requires regime change in Israel. That regime is not plotting peace or a ceasefire, they're plotting to end all territorial claims over Israel by annihilating anybody who dares to act to make such a claim.

They're acting to make the repercussions of all actions against Israel so terrible that nobody will dare to do it and from there they'll do whatever they want. They'll then take all territory from the Palestinians and the Palestinians will be absorbed into the Arab world and essentially erased.
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yep they will be and should be absorbed. They are Arabs that lived in mandated Palestine ruled by the British. There was no such thing as palestinian Arab nationality or palestinian jewish nationality for that matter. Only problem is their Arab muslim "brothers" also hate them. They had lots of chances for a state starting from 1948 but chose rockets suicide bombings, kidnapping and terror tunnels instead. Now their leaders are paying the ultimate price for their hatred to Israel. Only guarantee in this world we have is that we will all eventually die and that there will always be an Israel. As Pep says...It is what it is.
 
makinghistory said:
yep they will be and should be absorbed. They are Arabs that lived in mandated Palestine ruled by the British. There was no such thing as palestinian Arab nationality or palestinian jewish nationality for that matter. Only problem is their Arab muslim "brothers" also hate them. They had lots of chances for a state starting from 1948 but chose rockets suicide bombings, kidnapping and terror tunnels instead. Now their leaders are paying the ultimate price for their hatred to Israel. Only guarantee in this world we have is that we will all eventually die and that there will always be an Israel. As Pep says...It is what it is.
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They did not choose suicide bombings etc in 1948. They were forced out of their houses and whole villages disappeared.

The fact that they were never the government matters not. People have the right to self determination.

And your second last sentence suggests that you are coming at this issue from a different angle anyway, where the rule of international law might be secondary to something written in an old book
 
The Future’s Blue! said:
To keep themselves in power, they’ve lost the plot, and any semblance of reputation that they had.

Once again, can anybody defend what the Israeli government are doing in Gaza?
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All those who died fighting Nazism in World War 2 must be turning in their graves.

We are supporting a Nazi genocidal regime in Israel.Mainstream media like the BBC continue to ignore the atrocities in Gaza, the West Bank and Lebanon.

After the Holocaust it beggars belief that the Israelis have adopted many of the Final Solution practices the Nazis implemented against the Jews!!

The IDF are committing war crimes daily and we are just as guilty if we continue to provide the Israelis with assistance.

Is being a war criminal a badge of honour for Labour Prime Ministers ?
 
PinkFinal said:
The people's party!
Shameless , psychopathic human garbage who belong in Rampton more like.
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Not a bad idea. Could always send in a few job coaches to help them get back on their feet. Failing that inject them with stuff for research purposes .... good for inward investment so at least they will be economically useful.....
 
Blue Elvis said:
All those who died fighting Nazism in World War 2 must be turning in their graves.

We are supporting a Nazi genocidal regime in Israel.Mainstream media like the BBC continue to ignore the atrocities in Gaza, the West Bank and Lebanon.

After the Holocaust it beggars belief that the Israelis have adopted many of the Final Solution practices the Nazis implemented against the Jews!!

The IDF are committing war crimes daily and we are just as guilty if we continue to provide the Israelis with assistance.

Is being a war criminal a badge of honour for Labour Prime Ministers ?
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To be fair, Labour went early to call for a ceasefire and when in power, took the legal advice to suspend offensive munitions and only allowed defensive exports. Why the Conservatives didn’t do it, I’ll never know as they probably had the same legal advice to support their decision.

I heard a stat that Gaza is now 70% rubble, with many bodies lay underneath. This alone should have the Israeli government up in The Hague, and I do hope the world is strong enough to ensure it happens.
 
The Future’s Blue! said:
To be fair, Labour went early to call for a ceasefire and when in power, took the legal advice to suspend offensive munitions and only allowed defensive exports. Why the Conservatives didn’t do it, I’ll never know as they probably had the same legal advice to support their decision.

I heard a stat that Gaza is now 70% rubble, with many bodies lay underneath. This alone should have the Israeli government up in The Hague, and I do hope the world is strong enough to ensure it happens.
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I'm hearing fuckall off the Labour top brass regarding the Mass Murder taking place. Thing is I'm near certain they'd have the publics support for totally cutting all ties with Israel.

They won't though and are all in with the Yanks. Bastards the lot of them to which History won't forget.
 
Should Belgium, Italy and France refuse to play Israel in the Nations League at this stage and if so can UEFA "not punish" the 3 countries on compassionate grounds?

It is crazy to think that any players have to face that flag at this time. Especially anyone who is in any way related to the Palestinian community.

It's crazy to think that if the UK leveled Ireland in the 80s/90s because of the many bombs that the rest of the world would have treated them normally.
 
I watched life and death in Gaza last night on bbc 2. It really is a genocide that is going on right in front of our eyes. Israel dropped leaflets on several occasions telling families to leave their homes and sent them to areas that days later they bombed indiscriminately. Heartbreaking, and it's children and babies that are getting blown up and our government will just bow down to whatever the yanks want them to do.
 
The blue phantom said:
I'm hearing fuckall off the Labour top brass regarding the Mass Murder taking place. Thing is I'm near certain they'd have the publics support for totally cutting all ties with Israel.

They won't though and are all in with the Yanks. Bastards the lot of them to which History won't forget.
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Totally agree, mate, and that’s why I’m not a politician. We can say it how it is while they have to sniff the shit and pretend it’s roses.
 
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