VAR Discussion Thread | 2024/25

TinFoilHat said:
Two yellows overturned as Reds today.

They'll be some interesting conversations at Stockley Park on Monday.

I thought VAR decided once the ref had issued a yellow they did fuck all or is that only in games were reffed in?
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That was the rule but we know the var rules change with the wind, probaly changed again next week when they decide they dont want as many red cards
 
Just a thought on the Arse Yellow Card being upgraded to a Red by VAR, which I've just seen;

I'm just wondering if the ref was going to give a Red, but was told to give a Yellow by his magic earpiece so that VAR could be seen to be "doing its job"? It looked pretty much textbook Red Card territory.

We'll never know, because the comm's are shrouded in secrecy, but it just seemed too carefully choreographed for my liking.
 
Trevor Morley's Tache said:
Just a thought on the Arse Yellow Card being upgraded to a Red by VAR, which I've just seen;

I'm just wondering if the ref was going to give a Red, but was told to give a Yellow by his magic earpiece so that VAR could be seen to be "doing its job"? It looked pretty much textbook Red Card territory.

We'll never know, because the comm's are shrouded in secrecy, but it just seemed too carefully choreographed for my liking.
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Nah, just checking Raya wasn’t going to challenge him and no covering defenders with the deep ball.

Good reffing all around in my book. EXACTLY the way we’d like VAR to work in my “book!”

Same in the Spurs game, too. Well handled by Ref & VAR, and now it’s up to theEPL to give Kudus the extra game ban for the THREE red card offenses:

1) Kicking a man twice while he’s on the ground
2) Hands in the face of Van Der Ven
3) Hands in the face of a second player during the handbags.
 
Genuinely, why the grievance your title rivals had a player sent off rightly thanks to VAR - it’s a massive decision and ultimately lost them the game and a 3 match ban for one of their best players.
Pre VAR that would never be a sending off - surely have to admit at times it a god send ?
I have no grievance Kudos was sent off for us down to VAR , he deserved a red and the yellow overturned.
 
BlueHammer85 said:
Genuinely, why the grievance your title rivals had a player sent off rightly thanks to VAR - it’s a massive decision and ultimately lost them the game and a 3 match ban for one of their best players.
Pre VAR that would never be a sending off - surely have to admit at times it a god send ?
I have no grievance Kudos was sent off for us down to VAR , he deserved a red and the yellow overturned.
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Assuming this references the Arsenal game tonight I think Saliba gets a one game ban for denial of an obvious goal scoring opportunity
 
Here's a question..... If the Bournemouth striker had gone through and scored.... what are the chances the goal would have been disallowed as I thought the striker looked to be offside. If he was offside then surely the red card should not stand, or should it?

Correction just seen the ball that put him through was an Arsenal player backpass, unbelievable.

However, if it had been a Bournemouth ball and the lino never raised his flag (as they don't) could he be sent off?
 
also just seen the Fraser incident sneakily pulling him back denying vardy a tap in, no chance any ref would have spotted that, clear red.

Thats 3 red cards VAR correctly called this gameweek, all 3 would have been yellows or missed completely - after so many said it has killed the game, i can understand the reluctance to give it praise.
 
BigJoe#1 said:
Here's a question..... If the Bournemouth striker had gone through and scored.... what are the chances the goal would have been disallowed as I thought the striker looked to be offside. If he was offside then surely the red card should not stand, or should it?

Correction just seen the ball that put him through was an Arsenal player backpass, unbelievable.

However, if it had been a Bournemouth ball and the lino never raised his flag (as they don't) could he be sent off?
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They would have checked the off side first, so there never would have been a red card if he was off side.

Only if it had been for violent conduct would a red card stand after the game is pulled back.
 
BlueHammer85 said:
also just seen the Fraser incident sneakily pulling him back denying vardy a tap in, no chance any ref would have spotted that, clear red.

Thats 3 red cards VAR correctly called this gameweek, all 3 would have been yellows or missed completely - after so many said it has killed the game, i can understand the reluctance to give it praise.
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.... and the Southampton lad having his shirt pulled in the Leicester box?

Consistency is what is wanted more than anything else, but two identical incidents in the same game minutes apart... not a good look.
 
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BigJoe#1 said:
.... and the Southampton lad having his shirt pulled in the Leicester box?

Consistency is what is wanted more than anything else, but two identical incidents in the same game minutes apart... not a good look.
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consistency is never going to be 100% ever - the difference with that scenario is the Ref was looking straight at the incident and deemed it not a penalty - we rightly want VAR to interfere when the Ref doesn't see an incident.

I would still have preferred VAR to intervene and turn over the Refs (non) decision, however i can understand they are reluctant to do that because they're trying to leave most decisions for the ref that he sees, not to spoil the game, slow it down and keep the moaners at bay, impossible task but glad overall it's vastly better and so many key decisions are getting corrected.
 
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BlueHammer85 said:
also just seen the Fraser incident sneakily pulling him back denying vardy a tap in, no chance any ref would have spotted that, clear red.

Thats 3 red cards VAR correctly called this gameweek, all 3 would have been yellows or missed completely - after so many said it has killed the game, i can understand the reluctance to give it praise.
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Missed exactly the same thing in the same game.

Please make this make sense?
 
If var got some decisions right or wrong.
It's still shit.
It's ruined football for the fans in the ground.
Look at the Ipswich pen today.
Ref gave it no complaint it looked a pen.
5 minutes looking at it by var overturned.
Even now who knows what's right or wrong.
It's bollocks
 
Betterdeedthan red said:
If var got some decisions right or wrong.
It's still shit.
It's ruined football for the fans in the ground.
Look at the Ipswich pen today.
Ref gave it no complaint it looked a pen.
5 minutes looking at it by var overturned.
Even now who knows what's right or wrong.
It's bollocks
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So Saliba just receiving a yellow is fine with you ? That’s better for the game ? A player that’s denied a certain through on goal opportunity just gets off with a yellow.

Kudos reacts by shoving two spurs players in the face but it’s fine for him just to get a yellow?

Vardy was about to knock a goal in but Fraser is pulling him from behind which the ref can’t see and denies him the goal. He wouldn’t even have got a penalty.

3 blatant reds all possibly never given before VAR. Yet you think it’s all bollox .
 
BlueHammer85 said:
So Saliba just receiving a yellow is fine with you ? That’s better for the game ? A player that’s denied a certain through on goal opportunity just gets off with a yellow.

Kudos reacts by shoving two spurs players in the face but it’s fine for him just to get a yellow?

Vardy was about to knock a goal in but Fraser is pulling him from behind which the ref can’t see and denies him the goal. He wouldn’t even have got a penalty.

3 blatant reds all possibly never given before VAR. Yet you think it’s all bollox .
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I'll be honest.
I've not seen the saliba thing your on about
I do know when I'm in the ground var has killed the experience.
Like I said if the decisions turn out to be right.
It's still takes away the feeling when your team scores a goal you can't celebrate cos it .might be knocked off.

Maybe I'm in the minority and an old ****.
But for me it's one of the reasons I'm falling out of love with the game.
I'm not trying to argue with anyone.
It's just how I feel
 
Betterdeedthan red said:
I'll be honest.
I've not seen the saliba thing your on about
I do know when I'm in the ground var has killed the experience.
Like I said if the decisions turn out to be right.
It's still takes away the feeling when your team scores a goal you can't celebrate cos it .might be knocked off.

Maybe I'm in the minority and an old ****.
But for me it's one of the reasons I'm falling out of love with the game.
I'm not trying to argue with anyone.
It's just how I feel
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Yeh fair enough, I’ve had games when waiting for a VAR review is very frustrating or when we’ve scored and I’m convinced it’ll be chalked off .. over time I’ve gotten used to it though and it seems especially last couple years to have dramatically improved- and I believe they’re doing all they can to not intervere this season unless they have to.

I weigh up the pros and cons and just feel more comfortable knowing big decisions will mostly be given the correct call whereas before it was all pinned on the onfield Ref who at times was totally blind to the incident or just got it completely wrong - it’s easy to forget pre VAR how many incorrect major calls were given , players well offside scoring, players diving in the box all the time with no contact, knee high challenges not given as reds etc , I remember so many matches walking out furious at the ref and all they talked about on MOTD was how bad the officials was, something had to give.

It’s easy to forget, it’s easy to just ignore the 3 reds today that wouldn’t have given before and it’s easy just to moan all the time. I think it’s telling that no praise is ever given now for correct overturns but as soon as there is an incident most fans think VAR should have given then it’s uproar and moaning - I guess that’s just ingrained in us as fans.
 
ancoats said:
What the fuck

If he's mic up to the VAR team and referee then we are all fucked

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