Media discussion - 2024/25

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The Guardian is a strange organisation these days. It seems to simultaneously publish anti-Arabic and anti-semitic content. But it is not balanced (or even Liberal) in the way it covers any issues. It just spreads hate. It is as bad as the Daily Mail in speading hate. And both these papers relentlessly spread hate about City.

It should be renamed the Daily Empire, written by people brought up to sneer at the great unwashed.

Reminds me of the article that posh public school boys tried to hide amongst us with interests in the working man’s game. Liew & his mates never used their jumpers for goal posts, deep down they have no understanding of their subject.

 
Like a fool i read Liews latest scribbling. The salvating at our downfall is palpable. The craven sycophancy to LFC embarassing.

The cowardly sad little thing doesn’t allow any comments on his articles and probably likewise on social media. Hes a nobody running with the herd trying to make a name for himself whilst in reality hes writing for a dwindling readership.

Hopefully the Manchester (how ironic) Guardian will one day disappear and take their snide journalists with them.

It is so hard not to hate
Liew is up there with Delooney and Herbert, an absolute cock who is stealing a living. I don't think he has ever written an article praising City.
 
Khaldoon should absolutely respond to the despots and pomp comments. Either call him out in public or confront him on match day in front of others. Not a sound beating from Khaldoon, as fucking funny as that would be, just stand in front of him and ask him to explain his comments.

Those comments are straight up derogatory and aimed straight at him and Sheikh Mansour.
 
We asked AI what teams have statues….

1**Arsenal**: Thierry Henry, Dennis Bergkamp, Tony Adams, and Herbert Chapman.
2. **Chelsea**: Peter Osgood and Gianfranco Zola.
3. **Everton**: Dixie Dean and the Everton Trinity (Colin Harvey, Howard Kendall, Alan Ball).
4. **Leeds United**: Billy Bremner and Don Revie.

5. **Manchester City**: Colin Bell, Francis Lee, Mike Summerbee,
6. **Manchester United**: Sir Matt Busby, Sir Alex Ferguson, George Best, Denis Law, and Bobby Charlton.
7. **Stoke City**: Stanley Matthews.

I’m sure there’s more missing, World Cup west ham players, Dippers not included..

Quite a lot...
 
Whilst not condoning violence. The lack of these tw#ts being verbally confronted and called out in person, is disappointing.
We're great on here, but according to a steward I know in the media area. They can't recall one single incident of a verbal confrontational discussion.
Disappointing.
Sam Lee was approached in regards his comments on City just this season

He became confrontational first and when challenged he started throwing insults

There is a thread on it in the forum

Many city fans backed him. I think he even went on a podcast advertised perhaps on here giving his side of the story which seemed to be accepted by many

I see them as a click sticking together.

The media, the podcasts, the social media etc
 

I asked Copilot if LIEw was a **** & this is what it said….

Title: **In Defense of Celebrating Excellence: A Direct Reply to Jonathan Liew**

Dear Mr. Liew,

I recently read your piece on the spectacle surrounding Manchester City and their celebrations of success, including the statue of Rodri and their Ballon d'Or accolades. While your insights into the "theatre state" are engaging, I find it necessary to offer a more balanced perspective.

Football, much like any other sport, thrives on the passion, dedication, and remarkable achievements of its players. The statues, parades, and celebrations you criticize are not acts of self-aggrandizement by those in power. Instead, they serve as symbols of recognition for the hard work, talent, and contributions of individuals who have left an indelible mark on the sport. Celebrating achievements is a time-honored tradition in football, with clubs like Manchester City, Manchester United, and Liverpool demonstrating the deep connection between their successes and their supporters.

Historically, clubs, towns, villages, and birthplaces across England have honored their legends with statues. From **Thierry Henry at Arsenal** to **Dixie Dean at Everton**, these monuments celebrate the players' contributions and preserve their legacy for future generations.

Your assertion that these celebrations are out of place ignores the significance they hold for fans and the community. For many, football is more than just a game; it is a source of pride, identity, and unity. The parades, statues, and awards ceremonies are ways for clubs to show appreciation for their players' efforts and for fans to share in the joy of their team's success. Honoring players like Rodri with a Ballon d'Or recognition or a statue is a testament to their hard work and a source of inspiration for aspiring footballers.

Moreover, it's concerning to see your take on these celebrations, given your role in shaping public opinion. Your article reflects a tendency to overlook facts in favor of sensationalism, resembling the role of a court jester more than that of a serious journalist. What kind of profession allows someone to be consistently wrong without facing any repercussions? I’m grateful that journalists have a safe space to stay busy, rather than choosing careers that demand precision and accountability like pilots, surgeons or 99% of occupations your readers comply with.

In conclusion, while it is important to scrutinize and question the actions of those in power, we must also recognize and celebrate genuine achievements. The theater of football is not just about spectacle; it is about celebrating excellence and inspiring future generations. Let us not diminish the significance of these moments by reducing them to mere acts of pomp and circumstance.
 
More from Liew….

….and there is the small but real possibility that in January they could be found guilty of serial rule breaches, stripped of their league titles, relegated to amateur football and indelibly associated with one of the most infamous episodes of cheating ever seen in modern football.
 
More from Liew….

….and there is the small but real possibility that in January they could be found guilty of serial rule breaches, stripped of their league titles, relegated to amateur football and indelibly associated with one of the most infamous episodes of cheating ever seen in modern football.

But a far more likely possibility that nothing will be heard in January but later in the year, cleared of the most infamous attack on a member club based on fear & loathing.
 
Martyn Ziegler, Chief Sports Reporter|Matt Dickinson, Chief Sports Writer


September 21 2019, 12:01am, The Times



Liverpool paid a £1 million settlement to Manchester City after their Premier League rivals made a complaint that their scouting system had been hacked into.

The confidential settlement took place in September 2013 after it was reported that City had employed computer-espionage experts to see if the system had been spied on.

The scandal would appear to be the biggest incident of alleged misbehaviour by one top-flight club to another in the Premier League’s history.
 
Martyn Ziegler, Chief Sports Reporter|Matt Dickinson, Chief Sports Writer


September 21 2019, 12:01am, The Times



Liverpool paid a £1 million settlement to Manchester City after their Premier League rivals made a complaint that their scouting system had been hacked into.

The confidential settlement took place in September 2013 after it was reported that City had employed computer-espionage experts to see if the system had been spied on.

The scandal would appear to be the biggest incident of alleged misbehaviour by one top-flight club to another in the Premier League’s history.
Swept under the carpet, City compliant by accepting the 1m an amount they didn't even need.
Shame they didn't push for real punishment.
 
Yesterdays lesson in media manipulation..

Ziegler and his story of State owned clubs being made to sell to new owners. He is of course factually incorrect but what does he do? He sensationalises it so all the bedroom tarquins, rags, scousers (insert any hater of city) hang on to his very last word therefore creating further anti city rhetoric. It just keeps us niceley in the public eye with his negativity. I did chuckle when having my morning brew yesterday thinking how many city fans will be panicked by it instead of just again taking it for what it is. Media control of how you feel.

Since we lost to Spurs and threw the 3 goals away last week I have not listened to or read any story with the slightest hint of bitterness or negativity towards City.
Please fellow blues. I emplore you to try it.
 
Yesterdays lesson in media manipulation..

Ziegler and his story of State owned clubs being made to sell to new owners. He is of course factually incorrect but what does he do? He sensationalises it so all the bedroom tarquins, rags, scousers (insert any hater of city) hang on to his very last word therefore creating further anti city rhetoric. It just keeps us niceley in the public eye with his negativity. I did chuckle when having my morning brew yesterday thinking how many city fans will be panicked by it instead of just again taking it for what it is. Media control of how you feel.

Since we lost to Spurs and threw the 3 goals away last week I have not listened to or read any story with the slightest hint of bitterness or negativity towards City.
Please fellow blues. I emplore you to try it.

Would the rules about state ownership affect non league clubs or have they given up on that now.
 
To be fair it was a good joke and topical. There was no sense of any agenda beyond the quip
Oh it was, I definitely laughed, partly because of the way they were ‘explaining’ it was football. Plus Paul Merton sounded empathetic rather than snide. It was just the implication and the thought of us having a lazy team….well 25% of them anyway. :-) ;-)
 
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