PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

[Keeper!]

Better paying more in the summer than in this transfer window.

Not if we miss out on 50m plus and CL.

And no CL no Wirtz, so we may well go in January and make him and Bayer a big offer.

 

[RayCTID]

Not if we miss out on 50m plus and CL.

And no CL no Wirtz, so we may well go in January and make him and Bayer a big offer.

Wirtz wouldn't have signed even if we were in the CL if you are using that example. We missed out on Bellingham. Bottom line we still have no trouble in attracting talent even if we miss out for a a couple of seasons.

 

[Mad Eyed Screamer]

No she isn't (well OK, she may be a bit), she's monetised the platform by showing a bit of cleavage and appealing to opposing fans. That's how pathetic "social media" is I'm afraid.

I’ve watched her for a while (her pain when the rags lose only). Can you provide a link to where she’s shown a bit of cleavage as I’ve never seen her do that.





Asking for a friend

 

[blue b4 the moon]

I don't believe for one minute that Harris has been tipped off in any way about how the case is going. His comments in bold are probably more to do with him backtracking and covering his arse now that a verdict is probably only a few months away, when previously he's gone all in on saying we'll be found guilty/get relegated/go out of business or whatever other draconian punishment he could dream up in order to curry favour with all the salivating cocks who are thick enough to hang on his every word. It will be interesting to see what those salivating cocks think of these latest musings. I can't imagine they'll be particularly happy, and if they had any sense (which I doubt any of them have) they'd go to town on the **** for gaslighting them!

I'm not even having a City fan 'bert' exists certainly not in the contacting that tosser scenario.

 

[Kippax77]

I’ve watched her for a while (her pain when the rags lose only). Can you provide a link to where she’s shown a bit of cleavage as I’ve never seen her do that.





Asking for a friend

Been in a tizz myself trying to find the right words to ask the same.
If you get one can I have it after you.... obviously for my mate

 

[Mad Eyed Screamer]

Been in a tizz myself trying to find the right words to ask the same.
If you get one can I have it after you.... obviously for my mate

So you can go from a tizz to a jizz?

 

[Silva61]

The charges are mentioned on page 8 of the report, they have not been left out of the report.

I think no mention of the 115/13- or contingency in the accounts is stage 1 of a drip drip feed to the masses that City are cleared of all charges and have agreed with the PL an acceptable plan for them to save face, however I guess City will have some strong clauses in there, going forward.

 

[Silva2021]

I think the accounts and the move is something or nothing, but Stefan is obviously a details guys and knowledgeable so who knows.

Is it not a going concern as the trail has happened and so no costs, but still a risk etc.

Only think I could think that could possibly indicate a win is that our chances of win has increased significantly after the trail from the lawyers and auditors have accepted them, so not included.

Who knows, but auditors would look silly removing them only for us to be relegated in March and they don’t like looking silly.

 

[Silva61]

Bloody hell she's gone from an over emotional plastic rag crying in her bedroom about them losing, to a financial expert. She'll be Sky's chief reporter next.

Very likely looking at the current one.

 

[JewelZee]

I don't see a world where we're given points deductions with no financial liabilities. That's just a complete guess with no financial background to it, but logic tells me if we're set to be deducted points then a financial penalty would in all likelihood go hand in hand with that.

Correct. Because there is no such world...

 

[bobbyowenquiff]

OK, so nobody else seems to be interested in this, so I checked again.

The handbook on the PL website is definitely the July version without the changes made in November to make the rules "lawful". So the new amended version, which was posted last week, has been removed.

Of course, this could just be a mistake by PL (likely I suppose): either posting the amended version in error last week, or removing the link to the amended version in error this week.

Or, it could mean the FA haven't approved the amended rules yet, which would already be unusual.

Or, and bear with me, the tribunal has agreed with City that the APT rules as a whole are unlawful and so the amended rules had to be taken down. The consequences of that would be total victory for City in the APT case and total chaos for the PL.

Let's wait and see what happens.

It is a good spot though. Could just be the usual incompetence or perhaps they have had a steer from their own lawyers or the APT panel. It does seem strange (and arrogant) that the PL pushed this through before they knew what the advice from the panel was.

 

[Exeter Blue I am here]

Well, this is from our dearest friend Mr Nick Harris. Interesting read though. Seems like he's not that confident. I wonder what changed lately....?


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Man City - what will the verdict be?​

This question came via DM on social media from somebody calling themselves ‘Bert’, and I can only assume they are a Manchester City fan. They said they know I hate City (not actually true) but they would be interested in my opinion about whether City will be found guilty and punished in the “115 case”, where closing arguments were heard last Friday.

As I have repeatedly written, and said, I have zero confidence in any prediction, and I think the outcome could range from City effectively being cleared of all charges to City being found guilty of many, but not all. Which means potential punishments ranging from a fine (for non-cooperation with the Premier League probe, which we know is a slam dunk, albeit a minor one) to a points reduction big enough to relegate them.

I honestly cannot say with any confidence which of these outcomes will happen.

For new readers or those who haven’t kept abreast of developments, you might be interested in pieces from recent months about new details of City’s financial chicanery over the years, or how City have tried to shape the 115 narrative with the help of client journalists, and how we got here in the first place as the 10-week independent commission began.

As for my best prediction on the outcome: I have no inside knowledge of what has happened at the commission hearings. I don’t know the full list of witnesses or what they said. I assume City will have used similar tactics they used when getting a two-year Champions League ban overturned at CAS in 2020. They obviously will not have provided information that would incriminate themselves, and instead left it to the Premier League to prove the most significant charges, of disguised investment.

I don’t believe the Premier League will have had any jurisdiction to access financial records of Etihad’s income. So even if City produce records showing Etihad did indeed pay for City sponsorships, there won’t be any ability to see if Etihad did so after having been funded to do so by a UAE government source.

The Mancini and Yaya Toure payments look damning as far as the leaked emails show (links to all documents in pieces linked above), but again there is an element of subjectivity involved.

I don’t think there is any doubt at all that City have failed to co-operate with the Premier League. A High Court judge made this abundantly clear in 2021 when myself and colleagues from the MoS, assisted by a QC, effectively won the right to report on City’s dawdling.

I think it’s important to understand that City have already been caught and punished, twice, for breaking various UEFA and Premier League financial rules. It is abundantly clear what they did. We have been writing about it, with evidence, for a decade.

But I’m not confident the Premier League will have delivered the burden of proof required. I think City will be punished, certainly with a fine, probably with some points deductions. Am I confident they will be hit with sanctions that will relegate them? No.

I had a good chuckle at the claim that City have been shaping the 115 narrative via our network of ‘client journalists’. That’ll be the occasional barely discernible gust from Martin Samuel flying into the teeth of a raging hurricane of one sided bullshit coming in the opposite direction…….

 

[Bluewonder]

I had a good chuckle at the claim that City have been shaping the 115 narrative via our network of ‘client journalists’. That’ll be the occasional barely discernible gust from Martin Samuel flying into the teeth of a raging hurricane of one sided bullshit coming in the opposite direction…….

This gets a like for the metaphor alone.

 

[gocity]

Not sure, it would be a little rough for my liking.

Then again, in Thailand we don't use bog rolls .....

Sponge on a stick?

 

[ProofMCFC]

Been in a tizz myself trying to find the right words to ask the same.
If you get one can I have it after you.... obviously for my mate

Fuckinhell lads, drought on?

 

[Kippax77]

Fuckinhell lads, drought on?

Sex ban until after the derby.
Just feel like my mind would be elsewhere haha

 

[halfcenturyup]

Sponge on a stick?

Perhaps later.

We use water sprays here. If you turn the water pressure up you can give yourself an enema.

 

[kaz7]

I would doubt that your management will be giving too much away to the players but the fact is that the IC despite rumours to the contrary have now heard the evidence brings a different perspective.
Hey all this is speculation but there is something significantly impacting and sorry I don’t think it is coincidence that your current poor run of form broadly aligned with the commission sitting

We have had a whole first team injured , three defenders injured again as well now , that is the problem , we have a small squad , cut out the shitstirring

 

[Grassland Blue]

Things get stranger every day. Citeh have a lot to answer for :-)

CITY - Ruining F.A. handbooks since 2024.......

 

[kaz7]

All clubs suffer injuries and whilst you clearly have clearly missed players like Rodri this table points to the fact that the number of incidents suffered by you this season isn’t close to the worse

Premier League Injury Table 2024/25​

Which team has suffered the most injuries this season?

Position	Team	Total Injuries in 24/25
1	Arsenal	24
2	Brighton	22
3	Tottenham	21
4	Aston Villa	19
5	Ipswich	19
6	Man Utd	19
7	Man City	18
8	Chelsea	17
9	Crystal Palace	14
10	Newcastle	14
11	Liverpool	14
12	Wolves	12
13	Brentford	11
14	Leicester	11
15	Nottingham Forest	10
16	Everton	10
17	Southampton	9
18	Fulham	8
19	Bournemouth	8
20	West Ham	5

We have long term injuries , like kev five months, stones is never fit , rodders out for the whole season , i could go on but cant be arsed with your bollocks , mind you own fucking business