Good ....600 a block SS1 but 110 is a lot smaller.
....So there is opportunity for trouble !!No, it's like our SSL3. Away fans have their own entrances, and there is segregation at the top.
Saying that, home and away fans do cross over and mix as they make there way to the away end under the stand. It can get a bit boisterous, and has kicked off on occasions. There are plenty of Police and stewards around. Its a bit like United's forecourt, but under the stand.
Brentford give us about 1,700 it is Bournemouth and Luton which are closer to 1,200.Good ....
We give circa 3000 seats in a 52k arena and get 2950 at ragland (73k) & arse (61k) & wet spam (60k)
Brentford give us 1200 & we give them 3000.....the rules are bollox.
Give them what they give us.
Sauce for the goose.......!!
The rules as I understand them are you have to give 10% of capacity or 3,000 tickets to the away team, whichever figure is the lower. There might be a bit of wriggle room over 50 or so tickets due to segregation purposes etc, but we aren’t, under any circumstances going to be able to only offer circa 1,200 tickets to the opposition.Good ....
We give circa 3000 seats in a 52k arena and get 2950 at ragland (73k) & arse (61k) & wet spam (60k)
Brentford give us 1200 & we give them 3000.....the rules are bollox.
Give them what they give us.
Sauce for the goose.......!!
People who throw shit can only throw downwards and not sideways? Aside from there being zero benefit to moving away fans, you've got a perfectly sectioned off away end that allows for the police to contain fans and manage any potential conflict with ease, they're never going to agree to anything that makes their job more difficult.Segregation/safety/logistics will NOT be compromised but enhanced....no missiles raining down on City fans !!
Its easier to manage fans in 1 ground level section than in 3 sections split over separate, higher levels....yes ?People who throw shit can only throw downwards and not sideways? Aside from there being zero benefit to moving away fans, you've got a perfectly sectioned off away end that allows for the police to contain fans and manage any potential conflict with ease, they're never going to agree to anything that makes their job more difficult.
How will it make the police's job more difficult.Its easier to manage fans in 1 ground level section than in 3 sections split over separate, higher levels....yes ?
No skin in the game other than to try and help improve the atmosphere in the stadium which, imo, has been generally poor since opening.Brentford give us about 1,700 it is Bournemouth and Luton which are closer to 1,200.
The rules are the rules, and we can't break them. Do you mind me asking where you sit now, as do you have any skin in the game?
I know....... but we (and others) lose out both ways and i'm a belligerent oyld bastard !!The rules as I understand them are you have to give 10% of capacity or 3,000 tickets to the away team, whichever figure is the lower. There might be a bit of wriggle room over 50 or so tickets due to segregation purposes etc, but we aren’t, under any circumstances going to be able to only offer circa 1,200 tickets to the opposition.
I’m all for having discussions about improving the atmosphere, but this proposal is a non starter as it simply won’t be allowed.
Faint heart ne'er won a fair lady.We’ve already ascertained that the number of away fans displaced from SSL 2/3 won’t fit into the proposed blocks, meaning that most of 109 and 114 would also be needed to create this wall of pitchside away fans. So even more current singing SC holders displaced against their will. 107 would then be next to the away fans (and probably then standing, which the club won’t want) Even more of the ESL 1 concourse and all South exits lost. Major revenue loss for the club, giving away fans premium priced seats vs lower cost SSL3. All this to accommodate some theoretical fanatical singers who want to watch the game from L3, and who have the option to move to the new NSL2 anyway. Given very few people seem convinced of any benefit of implementing this, it sounds unlikely to me (thankfully).
“An estmated 2700 fans can be accomodated in 110,111 & 113” - no they can’t.I know....... but we (and others) lose out both ways and i'm a belligerent oyld bastard !!
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Faint heart ne'er won a fair lady.
An estmated 2700 fans can be accomodated in 110,111 & 113.
The club and the GMP/Licencing Authority have arbitarily,when the occasion suits them, reduced an away clubs allocation by upto 500 tix to a total of 2450.
This may have peeved the clubs but wasnt objected to by the PL.
Try looking for solutions not problems, things might get done then.
“An estmated 2700 fans can be accomodated in 110,111 & 113” - no they can’t.
I regard this ill conceived plan as the problem, the solution is to abandon it.
Yes they can.“An estmated 2700 fans can be accomodated in 110,111 & 113” - no they can’t.
I regard this ill conceived plan as the problem, the solution is to abandon it.
You’re correct, I think it’s a bad idea. But that’s my opinion (and that of others) which is a subjective opinion. What is not subjective is the number of seats in blocks 110/111/113. As you helped to confirm with your seat count and the 3D map these blocks hold only 1500 ( fifteen hundred) seats. You cannot put 3000 people in the space for 1500 ( well except at the swamp!)One more point.
If the club wanted to happen, it can and will happen, regardless of some issues with seating configurations.
As we all know, the club can do what it wants, and has shown that in the past when they have changed seating configurations on tiers, and have moved fans around the ground en-nasse.
110/111/113 hold 1500. No need to get personal, it’s not my fault you can’t do hard sums. Anyway I’ll leave you do a recount, I’m off to the game.Yes they can.
Are you the problem ?
if so, i have a solution.
You’re correct, I think it’s a bad idea. But that’s my opinion (and that of others) which is a subjective opinion. What is not subjective is the number of seats in blocks 110/111/113. As you helped to confirm with your seat count and the 3D map these blocks hold only 1500 ( fifteen hundred) seats. You cannot put 3000 people in the space for 1500 ( well except at the swamp!)
To house 3000 away fans on L1 you need all of 109 and 114. That is the reality people should be asked to comment on.
Isn’t that why we have a seat counting group…..!And others think it's a good idea. :-)
You've lost me.
3000 people in a space of 1500 people?
Current SSL2 away blocks, current SSL1 away blocks, and blocks 111, 110, and half of block 114. Current home blocks. How many seats does that add up to?
109, 110, 111 and half of 114 would be well over 1000 seats. Until an exact count is done on blocks 111, 110, and half of 114, we won't know if any, and how many additional seats would be needed in block 109, if any, to accommodate the away fans from SSL3. ATM it's subjective and a guestimate. Nobody has the exact seat numbers for each block. Get counting on the seat planner ! :-)
Nothing personal.....110/111/113 hold 1500. No need to get personal, it’s not my fault you can’t do hard sums. Anyway I’ll leave you do a recount, I’m off to the game.