10 | Jack Grealish - 2024/25

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Alan Harper's Tash said:
No, but it’s probably the simple premise of whether the player wants to take a pay cut to play more or not.

Obviously, to laypeople, the difference between £150k and £200k seems negligible, but it’s still £50k a week.

When you’ve won everything you wanted to win, what’s the point of going somewhere else for a pay cut? Especially when you’ve got a baby and a settled life.

It’s up to each player to make their own decision. They’ve got to be really driven to want to go elsewhere for less.
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Well, thanks for your interpretation, AHT, but I confess I'm still a bit puzzled. I'd expect these footballers to want to play. Especially if you're unquestionably a highly skilled footballer (and an England international, incidentally). In fact, I'd have some difficulty respecting them if they were prepared to vegetate on a bench, just because of money (as I've said, they've already got more money banked than I'd know how to spend in several lifetimes). What must it do for your self-respect if you see James McAtee (a good academy player, but still with everything to confirm) being brought on, while you sit there glumly? Just puzzled. Kalvin Phillips was prepared to do it, perhaps, but let's have it right, he's no Jack Grealish.
 
Mike N said:
Here’s a thought about Grealish, why doesn’t he pull his finger out, make a contribution and show Pep that he wants to play and earn some of the ridiculous amount of money he’s paid?
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Hard to reignite the fire in your belly if it has gone out. See Sterling.

Not saying it has with Grealish, but just in principle.
 
Lovebitesandeveryfing said:
Well, thanks for your interpretation, AHT, but I confess I'm still a bit puzzled. I'd expect these footballers to want to play. Especially if you're unquestionably a highly skilled footballer (and an England international, incidentally). In fact, I'd have some difficulty respecting them if they were prepared to vegetate on a bench, just because of money (as I've said, they've already got more money banked than I'd know how to spend in several lifetimes). What must it do for your self-respect if you see James McAtee (a good academy player, but still with everything to confirm) being brought on, while you sit there glumly? Just puzzled. Kalvin Phillips was prepared to do it, perhaps, but let's have it right, he's no Jack Grealish.
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I’ve just replied to another post suggesting that the fire in his belly might have gone out.

Why is a footballer any different to anyone else? Would you take a 25% pay cut to go to work for a worse company?
 
Alan Harper's Tash said:
Hard to reignite the fire in your belly if it has gone out. See Sterling.

Not saying it has with Grealish, but just in principle.
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Can see what you’re saying but surely he wants to play? He’s settled in Manchester with a new kid. Why not get your head down?
 
Mike N said:
Can see what you’re saying but surely he wants to play? He’s settled in Manchester with a new kid. Why not get your head down?
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I don’t know. I’m not him. He’s a sensitive soul though that gets hurt easily.

Maybe he’s just fed up of all the noise. I don’t know.
 
Mike N said:
Can see what you’re saying but surely he wants to play? He’s settled in Manchester with a new kid. Why not get your head down?
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I guess its what separates the real top level players. That hunger to keep going and wanting to continue to win. Personally feel that Grealish's biggest issue since being here and winning the treble is not being able to find that. He's a player that clearly loves football but I get the feeling that's more as a fan and winning that treble is essentially most peoples club level goals achieved in one. From the start its as if he's had imposter syndrome being at city, and needed that belief he did belong at this level. Throw in off field issues and some bad luck with injuries etc. and its easier again to see why maybe that hunger now isn't quite where it needs to be. As an outsider where most of us would kill to be in his position its easy to question it but there's probably a reason why they say its the hardest thing in football to keep winning season after season.
 
Alan Harper's Tash said:
Leaving on loan to whoever would have them in January, having pissed Pep off, there is.
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Don't even know where to start with how wildly off the mark that assessment is. One of the few posts I've seen from you that is completely off the wall.
We'll leave it at that. Or put it this way, I won't be engaging this particular point of disagreement beyond here.
 
Lovebitesandeveryfing said:
Don't even know where to start with how wildly off the mark that assessment is. One of the few posts I've seen from you that is completely off the wall.
We'll leave it at that. Or put it this way, I won't be engaging this particular point of disagreement beyond here.
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Okay, that’s cool. They both engineered moves out of the club because they lost their arses.

What happened before in their careers here was wildly different. 17 trophies says this.

The ending was similar, to me, anyway.
 
Alan Harper's Tash said:
I’ve just replied to another post suggesting that the fire in his belly might have gone out.

Why is a footballer any different to anyone else? Would you take a 25% pay cut to go to work for a worse company?
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Easy for me to say but I’d like to think I’d take a 25% cut from one astronomical figure to another in order to keep playing at top level.

This is assuming I’d already built up a good nest egg.

Such a short career that I’d hate to waste some of it sat in the stands.
 
sir baconface said:
Easy for me to say but I’d like to think I’d take a 25% cut from one astronomical figure to another in order to keep playing at top level.

This is assuming I’d already built up a good nest egg.

Such a short career that I’d hate to waste some of it sat in the stands.
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Some players think like that and others don’t.
 
Alan Harper's Tash said:
Hard to reignite the fire in your belly if it has gone out. See Sterling.

Not saying it has with Grealish, but just in principle.
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I'd feel lost too if I had to watch Foden, Bernardo and Gundo get thrown into the midfield week after week while I'm competing for minutes on the wing with Doku. There's still a good player there, but Pep seems to have coached the creativity out of him by marooning him out on the wing and keeping him pinned on the touch line. As much as I don't want him to go yet, he's going to be one of those cases where he's sold to a rival and will tear it up when given freedom to actually play his preferred position.
 
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