United Thread | 2024/25

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KS55 said:
The Beeb today said this season for us is “calamitous”.
Er…
We sit 4th.
We have a shot at the champs league.
We have a decent shot at the FA Cup.
We have a shot at the world club championship and will earn a pile from it.
We have three excellent new players.
The rags would give their right arm for such a calamitous season.
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If you'd have told me in the late 90s' that this would be a calamitous season for City, I would be calling for the men in white coats while laughing my bollox off
 
I think they're finished. Their players, stadium and general infrastructure are essentially worthless, the only thing of any value is their name. A possible scenario would be bankruptcy and start from scratch like Rangers did with a wealthy backer.
 
Bantamgaz said:
He aint shit though he is trying to sort shit out at a club in mess ..........
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Surely the fact that was either stupid or ill informed or egotistical enough to take the job in first place does actually automatically qualify him for being a shit manager though?

Any non-shit manager wouldn't have touched the job with a bargepole.
 
jacko74 said:
Surely the fact that was either stupid or ill informed or egotistical enough to take the job in first place does actually automatically qualify him for being a shit manager though?

Any non-shit manager wouldn't have touched the job with a bargepole.
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I think he might have been swung by something else...
 
thegoatsthegoat said:
They are only not getting relegated because there are at least 3 very dog shit teams in the league. If it was remotely competitive then they'd be in real trouble. I mentioned it before when a poster still lived in an age where they felt United got every decision, that doesn't happen much anymore and I do think if that was the case in previous years (it probably was) then they have almost given up on them nowadays. As Scudamore said, the Premier League need a successful Manchester United. What good is a mid table Manchester United to them? They probably want them to go down for a year, come back up and then reignite the fanfare surrounding them.

I do understand the point, but ultimately if them or anyone else is shit enough to go down, then they will. If the claim is the league is trying to enforce their success, two titles in 12 years between them all suggests they are failing at that.......

I agreed with a poster the other day, plodding in 15th is almost as bad, if not worse than going down and it is fucking brilliant.
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Very much this, several years of 15th-17th would be a far more excruciating a pain, both physically, mentally and financially for them.

A relegation, whilst celebratory would only be temporary making a Docherty-like resurgence far more likely.
 
AFCAndy said:
I'll maintain Alexis Sanchez was in no way 'Done' when we sold him, look at his goals for us that same season. But Mourinho tasked him with dropping deep and defending deep and he received the ball in his own half while Wenger gave him a free role in the opposition final third.

The current team is poor though. But the uncertainty over management and their personal futures will have made their heads drop. Amorim has obviously not come in and said 'there's a clean slate here, anyone can succeed here if you do the tasks I set you'. The players are probably constantly talking to their agents about their next club
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There’s no way we would have been in for him if he was done.
 
mattcity5 said:
Every time there's a City report by Simon Stone and we have injuries he mentions City would get little sympathy.

Never happens when it's united. Sometimes he'll say they deserves some sympathy even. Same old trying to influence readers and set the narrative they want.
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Unfortunately there’s still too many rag glory hunters in media from the 90s who will find any excuse to cut them some slack.
It’s gonna take many years for this to die away until they will be just another team.
Problem is most of us won’t be around to witness it.
 
roach3 said:
until they will be just another team.
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They have always been just another team. It is only Sly and the tabloids that persist in maintaining this facade of them being a great team. It seems we -the great unwashed- are incapable of watching a game and making our own minds up. If we watch a game where the rags are absolutely battered 5-0, and it only was some dubious refereeing decisions that kept it at 5 and not double figures, we would still have the media tell us that what we watched ourselves is not what really happened. They would tell us the rags were absolutely sublime with the football they played, silky and smooth, creative, and they were by far the better team but for 5 extraordinarily freakish goals from the opposition.

Not all journalists and sports reporters in this country are stupid and uneducated, some of them see what is happening on the pitch with the vermin and know full well that they are watching a club in terminal decline: serious debt, ground falling around them, unhappy plastic fans sitting under a fucking waterfall and having to pay through the nose for the privilege. But these journalists know that by exposing the emperor's new clothes their careers would be short lived.
 
jacko74 said:
It's all down to Sky, they're the real reason united have enjoyed so much favouritism and leniency from the footballing authorities and governing bodies.

Sky are the paymasters for the PL, FA and even PGMOL and Sky desperately want their global cash cow united to remain relevant.

Don't forget at the inception of the PL Sky wanted to actually buy united, presumably because they saw the income potential from their 6 trillion armchair supporters, but rules prevented Sky from buying them so they've just done the next best thing and become their biggest unofficial commercial partner.

Rules are still being invented to help them even now... £75m in "exceptional spending allowances" for one.
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Can you imagine the uproar of a relegated Man Utd getting their games televised every week by sky just to keep the trillions of glory hunters subscriptions rolling in.

Rest of the championship would go apeshit but I could see this happening in a world ruled my money .
 
I found Talksport flicking through my TV channels last night and I noticed there was a united feature on.
The reason given in their blurb was regardless of how they are playing they are always the biggest story.
I thought it was interesting they have given up trying to justify it from a football pov.
 
scousemanc said:
Some stats to back it up (from Grok AI):

Here are some detailed statistics regarding penalties in the Premier League:

Most Penalties Awarded:
  • Manchester United: 169 penalties
  • Arsenal: 148 penalties
  • Liverpool: 142 penalties
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115 for City ?
 
tweety said:
I think they're finished. Their players, stadium and general infrastructure are essentially worthless, the only thing of any value is their name. A possible scenario would be bankruptcy and start from scratch like Rangers did with a wealthy backer.
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They have two billionaire owners now and administration could be a possibility if they run out of cash.
 
Could make a great game of play your cards right from the cost of hiring and then sacking united managers in the last decade. Strongly suspect Amorim will be even higher.
 
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