Russian invasion of Ukraine

[BlueAnorak]

Stuff 21/02:

Russian stuff blowing up: Trump says it's not important for Zelenskyy to attend negotiations

A very precise mortar strike on two Russians in winter camp. WARNING: Video shows the Russians getting blown up. A Russian soldier takes video as a drone blasts his tank in Tokmak. A Russian Shahed drone strikes residential buildings in Bila Tserkva,...

www.dailykos.com

 

[BlueAnorak]

They most certainly would

Do what your told or die I believe is what the Russians have done in conquered area's of Ukraine.

 

[BlueAnorak]

Trump now saying war crime investigations will be abandoned.
Wow! Just wow.
Trump is a full on knob jockey.

I don't know why I was suprised.
He's Putin's gimp.

 

[BlueAnorak]

In other news, Russians have started to Surrender en-mass on the front near Pokrovsk

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

Europe stand together strong!! ( have you been on the beer early)

How is 9.07pm ‘early’ for being on the beers? 9.07am, maybe I’ll grant you.

Europe is capable of that, absolutely. Not convinced it will be though. Nobody can say it wasn’t warned.

 

[CTID1977]

now the orange one is threatening to cut off Ukraine from starlink

 

[CTID1977]

 

[CTID1977]

We did not surrender when we were given three days and the American embassy was packing its bags.
We did not surrender our capital when elite Russian units were in its suburbs.
We repelled the enemy from Kyiv, Chernihiv, and Sumy.
We defeated them in the Kharkiv region.
We liberated Kherson. And we tied them up in battles in the Donbas, which the enemy could not capture for three years.
We invented FPV. And with drones for $500, we took out more than half of its armored potential.
We paralyzed the Russian fleet.
We destroyed dozens of refineries.
We forced the enemy to burn entire brigades for the sake of one village, to fight in crippled regiments, to transfer to donkeys, and to become artillery dependent on the Koreans and economically dependent on the Chinese.
For the first time in history, we entered the territory of a nuclear state in order to force the aggressor to make peace.
And at the same time, no matter how difficult it was, we did not fall apart, we retained control.We won subjectivity.At a high price.Perhaps we are the last adults in this turbulent world. And no matter how hard we try to rock our ship, to undermine our inner stability, we will write our own future.And even if we are given a few days again, this does not mean that all the predictions will come true.

Orest Drymalovskyi.

 

[CTID1977]

 

[Blue Maverick]

I really hope Ukraine stand strong on this mineral thing, thus orange **** is just going to try and bully everyone he hates been stood up to you can see it in that video with the Maine governor, more and more need to do ut yo his face while the cameras are in his head will explode.

 

[lee_wsm]

Just read Zelenskyy has agreed to give over minerals to trump

 

[Blue Maverick]

Just read Zelenskyy has agreed to give over minerals to trump

In exchange for what? Wil trump then tell Putin to fuck off, I doubt it, will he let Ukraine in NATO I doubt it, he won’t do it because he has nothing to gain from it.

 

[mosssideblue]

I know you know this stuff so correct me if I'm wrong but there was an FOI on this. No Permissive Action Link so no codes required, the sub commanders and crews can launch independently. We rely on the Americans for the longer term maintenance regime but In theory one of our Vanguards could sidele up to the Eastern seaboard and do it's worst and the US would not be able to stop launch.

(2 days of reading the British Defence Journal and the RUSI website and I'm in expert - lol!)

We are totally independent of the US for the operation of the deterrent in that we can ( and do), select and program the missiles for the targets we chose, and have no dependency at all on the States to fire them.

our dependency on the states is for serviceable missiles

 

[mosssideblue]

Just read Zelenskyy has agreed to give over minerals to trump

Where have you heard that?

 

[Blue Maverick]

Where have you heard that?

It was probably the secretary of defense saying it last night saying we ate going to see him sign it over in next few days. I do wonder why they cancelled a press conference the other day though in Ukraine after meeting Kellog.

 

[Wayneclarkemunchescarrots]

We did not surrender when we were given three days and the American embassy was packing its bags.
We did not surrender our capital when elite Russian units were in its suburbs.
We repelled the enemy from Kyiv, Chernihiv, and Sumy.
We defeated them in the Kharkiv region.
We liberated Kherson. And we tied them up in battles in the Donbas, which the enemy could not capture for three years.
We invented FPV. And with drones for $500, we took out more than half of its armored potential.
We paralyzed the Russian fleet.
We destroyed dozens of refineries.
We forced the enemy to burn entire brigades for the sake of one village, to fight in crippled regiments, to transfer to donkeys, and to become artillery dependent on the Koreans and economically dependent on the Chinese.
For the first time in history, we entered the territory of a nuclear state in order to force the aggressor to make peace.
And at the same time, no matter how difficult it was, we did not fall apart, we retained control.We won subjectivity.At a high price.Perhaps we are the last adults in this turbulent world. And no matter how hard we try to rock our ship, to undermine our inner stability, we will write our own future.And even if we are given a few days again, this does not mean that all the predictions will come true.

Orest Drymalovskyi.

Love your post mate , all true which makes the blood boil that it has the potential to quickly unravel due to a power hungry **** . Trump over the next 4 years will try to bring in directives to stay in power beyond his terms .

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

Just read Zelenskyy has agreed to give over minerals to trump

Fucking shameful, if true. Leader of a so called civilised country extorting another nation’s natural resources. Can anyone imagine Reagan or even Nixon doing such a thing, so brazenly?

 

[mosssideblue]

It was probably the secretary of defense saying it last night saying we ate going to see him sign it over in next few days. I do wonder why they cancelled a press conference the other day though in Ukraine after meeting Kellog.

My feeling as to why they cancelled the press conference is that Kellogg stance was as odds to Trump

 

[mosssideblue]

Fucking shameful, if true. Leader of a so called civilised country extorting another nation’s natural resources. Can anyone imagine Reagan or even Nixon doing such a thing, so brazenly?

I could understand it if there was a meaningful quid pro quo for Ukraine, but I think we all know there won’t be

Shameful by Tango and all his followers looking to blackmail a sovereign country, and I hope Zelensky and the rest of Europe tells him to fuck off.

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

I could understand it if there was a meaningful quid pro quo for Ukraine, but I think we all know there won’t be

At this point, we have to assume that we cannot trust a single thing America says, so any assurances Ukraine will be given by the US in exchange for these natural resources simply won’t be honoured, so as you say what’s the point in handing anything over.