Hooliganism and Violence Maine Road 80's/early 90's

Not anywhere near the ground they didn't. It's easy when you have a mob of 2 or 300 get off a train, unannounced and start on blues in the town centre. Very few tried that in Moss Side
Yeah I can well imagine most firms had to stick together like glue around Maine Road or they'd get a hiding
 
Yeah I can well imagine most firms had to stick together like glue around Maine Road or they'd get a hiding
Most got escorts surrounded by police. City would infiltrate sometimes.


Infiltrating escorts was always very welcome ;)
 
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They had a very active, hardcore firm in those days: The 6.57 crew. Not for the faint hearted visiting Pompey. Engerland as well.

Went to Portsmouth two or three times ..... they did try to have a go at us near Fratton Station after one match we'd won down there, but there was too many of us who stood our ground, and Portsmouth soon f'ked off .

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Went to Portsmouth two or three times ..... they did try to have a go at us near Fratton Station after one match we'd won down there, but there was too many of us who stood our ground, and Portsmouth soon f'ked off .
Always made me laugh this:

Spell FRATTON PARK backwards
 
Always made me laugh this:

Spell FRATTON PARK backwards
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New Podcast on BBC Sounds that maybe of interest to people on this thread ??

Introduction to the series dropped today called HOOLIGANS - going back to the 1970’s and telling it as was from all sides, including the police and the victims, through to now??

Not sure after that when the other episodes will be released??

Tony Bellew,the Evertonian, ex boxer, is the presenter.

I will others to decide if is any good or factual???
 
New Podcast on BBC Sounds that maybe of interest to people on this thread ??

Introduction to the series dropped today called HOOLIGANS - going back to the 1970’s and telling it as was from all sides, including the police and the victims, through to now??

Not sure after that when the other episodes will be released??

Tony Bellew,the Evertonian, ex boxer, is the presenter.

I will others to decide if is any good or factual???
What people misunderstand about hooliganism is that it was born out of frustration. What I’ve learnt through doing this podcast is that these people were doctors, they were solicitors, they came from all different walks of life, and they go to these matches and have fights with other fans to escape their day-to-day lives.— Tony Bellew

Launching on BBC Sounds on Friday 7 March as a boxset, this series delves deep into the rise and fall of hooliganism and the socioeconomic factors that led to its peak. It also explores the cultural impact it had on society, and how the police, Government and football clubs worked hard to put the fire out.

Presented by former world champion boxer, Tony Bellew, the series uncovers the turbulent history of the movement, from the fights to fashion, and its lasting impact on communities across the UK over the past six decades.

Talking about the podcast, Everton fan Tony Bellew said: “Back then, there were no rules. There were also weapons. It was mayhem. In my opinion, it was a dark time, it was when football was in a really, really bad place. The terraces were chaos, there was violence in the streets, there was violence in city centres, at train stations, at grounds. Nobody was safe, things could escalate at any moment.”

“What people misunderstand about hooliganism is that it was born out of frustration. What I’ve learnt through doing this podcast is that these people were doctors, they were solicitors, they came from all different walks of life, and they go to these matches and have fights with other fans to escape their day-to-day lives.”

The podcast features not only members of the notorious ‘firms’ but also victims, the families of those lost to the violence, and undercover police officers who risked their lives infiltrating some of England’s most dangerous football gangs.

Packed with archive news material, conversations with well-known football legends and fans such as former footballer and broadcaster Pat Nevin, Radio DJ Trevor Nelson and TV presenter Nick Owen, and a soundtrack that takes you back to the era. Tony covers decades of football ‘firm’ history starting in the 60s up to present day.

Made forty years on from the tragic Heysel Stadium disaster, the podcast highlights a time when English football fans garnered a worldwide reputation for violence in and outside football grounds across Europe. So much so it became known as 'the English disease.'

It features some of the key players in some of British football's most notorious firms, their origins, and the havoc they caused around the country. From Manchester United’s massive Red Army to the infamous Chelsea Headhunters, via the notorious West Ham Inner City Firm and Birmingham City’s Zulu Warriors, Gangster Presents hears from those who lived for the trouble – the men, and women, whose Saturdays weren’t complete without a brutal punch-up.

These include ‘Cockney Al’ who moved to the Chelmsley Wood area of Birmingham when he was just 14, and by 15 he was up to his neck in it.

Reflecting, he said: “You’ve got two choices, you turn and run, or you stand and fight. Once you get involved, you’re expected to get involved every week and that’s what happened to me. I was 15 and we played West Ham on the night time and West Ham came out of New Street Station and quite a lot of people feared them, well because I was from London it didn’t bother me, seeing 200 cockneys coming out the station, so I just through our lot and ran right at them. That was my first major fight, and it just grew from there.”

The Gangster Presents: Hooligans boxset launches on BBC Sounds on Friday 7 March.
 
Love it. Stretford end is the only part of the swamp ive not been in. When i was still at school we would go the fence and tell the coppers we were City, they would let us walk around to our end. When older, fuck it, give it large and see who approaches. Nobody did. Never gone looking for it, but im Jekyll and Hyde when it comes to the rags.
Good mob of us in the C stand seats top of the Stretford end in 91.
When some hairy **** called Giggs tried taking Colin Hendrie's OG off him
 
Good mob of us in the C stand seats top of the Stretford end in 91.
When some hairy **** called Giggs tried taking Colin Hendrie's OG off him

I was in the Stretford seats that day with a good few City, vividly remember United singing something about sorting us out, nothing happened, before that game we'd taken over the pub where the bishops blaze is now, can't remember it's name.
 
I was in the Stretford seats that day with a good few City, vividly remember United singing something about sorting us out, nothing happened, before that game we'd taken over the pub where the bishops blaze is now, can't remember it's name.
Yeah.
C stand sort em out, but you like you say nothing.
Knew a few rags from Heywood who were asking at the bar at halftime "what the fuck are you lot doing in here"?
I said "taking the piss"
 
That just seems like the tired old cliches of boredom and you get “drs and solicitors “ having a pop at the football.

My old mans best mate was a football lad in the 80s. Spins a great yarn after a few pints.
Nicest guy you could ever wish to meet.

I am quite interested in the scene from back then and the fashion etc.

I’ve asked him what got him involved with it and he just said he liked a fight. No need to get to deep and no psycho analysis required.
Just likes a tear up .
 

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