PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

From outset the club has always said we have done nothing wrong and that we have irrefutable evidence to prove our position. We even welcomed this investigation from the point of view that it will put to bed all allegations / accusations once and for all.

So if we take the clubs standpoint and their declaration of irrefutable evidence as correct and truthful, and we have no reason not to, then of course the outcome is already known and has been even before this fucking charade even started.

Yes, there may be some curve balls thrown at us but until its proven otherwise (and I very much doubt it will be) we will be found not guilty of all charges, except maybe those relating to non-co-operation.

The club / CFG is / are run by professionals with a high level of integrity and business acumen, unlike the shit show that is the PL.
 
gordondaviesmoustache said:
It would be a gross dereliction of duty for any tribunal decision maker to task anyone with writing their determination for them. In cases such as this, these determinations are incredibly complex expositions which require a hugely layered and nuanced narrative in order to get the findings across in a way that is cogent, logical, coherent and as appeal proof as possible. They are essentially a novel where all the pieces of the plot need to fit together. Any worthwhile novelist wouldn’t get their PA to write their story for them - why would any tribunal member?

And no disrespect to anyone else, but these people are intellectually on a level that the vast majority of people within the legal profession, never mind the wider public, would be unable to formulate the appropriate form of words to express the conclusions based on the assimilation of huge quantities of material incorporating extremely complex legal issues.

A judgment, if it is well written and considered, truly is a thing of beauty and something to be both respected and admired. Why would any self respecting judge or tribunal member want to put that important and far-reaching undertaking in the hands of someone else?
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Bajkowski finished his MUEN hit piece by quoting Ratboy blaming City for the delay in characteristically incoherent style:
"That Manchester City case is a disgrace; it's an absolute stain to the game," Neville said. "I have a lot of admiration for City, but I don't buy into this theory that clubs do really well, and City have, but it is still a stain to the game.
"It has just been dragging on for years and years, it's an absolute joke. Yes, City have been defending themselves, but they've been pushing it so far into the long grass that you end up losing the will to live on it and you forget about it. It just needs to be dealt with."

How do they get away with these libellous attacks?
 
At the beginning of all this wernt we told by some of the more in the know posters that it was basically five charges broken down into subforums = 115.
How long can it take to look at five charges if just one part of it is found to be wrong or BS ?
 
johnny crossan said:
Bajkowski finished his MUEN hit piece by quoting Ratboy blaming City for the delay in characteristically incoherent style:
"That Manchester City case is a disgrace; it's an absolute stain to the game," Neville said. "I have a lot of admiration for City, but I don't buy into this theory that clubs do really well, and City have, but it is still a stain to the game.
"It has just been dragging on for years and years, it's an absolute joke. Yes, City have been defending themselves, but they've been pushing it so far into the long grass that you end up losing the will to live on it and you forget about it. It just needs to be dealt with."

How do they get away with these libellous attacks?
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Once a **** always a **** jc.
 
chaddblue said:
Makes perfect sense to me ... and to many other posters who have suggested the same thing
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Saying there has been a ruling does not make it so and just because the case is over does not mean there is a ruling.

If we take Khaldoon at his word there has been no ruling

There cannot be a ruling and no ruling at the same time
 
TheGhost said:
So what you’re saying is a hack at the MuEN knows that City have received the result.

But hasn’t broken the next stage of the biggest story in the history of the game.

But he’s decided to drop a one word hint into an article that no one is going to read.

Well it could be true.
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You've clearly no idea how the media works. Many stories get suppressed or minimised because the journalist or paper doesn't want to destroy their relationship with the source, or is promised an exclusive. There are huge stories about former international players that I know about but have never seen the light of day.

Let's put it another way. Your best mate tells you something, and asks you not to tell anyone else as it's just between the two of you. But you do tell others and the story is all over town. Do you think your mate would trust you with a secret again?
 
WRicko said:
Saying there has been a ruling does not make it so and just because the case is over does not mean there is a ruling.

If we take Khaldoon at his word there has been no ruling

There cannot be a ruling and no ruling at the same time
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You need to regard 'ruling' as enythematically including 'published' which allows for the content to be already known.
 
Prestwich_Blue said:
You've clearly no idea how the media works. Many stories get suppressed or minimised because the journalist or paper doesn't want to destroy their relationship with the source, or is promised an exclusive. There are huge stories about former international players that I know about but have never seen the light of day.

Let's put it another way. Your best mate tells you something, and asks you not to tell anyone else as it's just between the two of you. But you do tell others and the story is all over town. Do you think your mate would trust you with a secret again?
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Pretty much inconceivable any journalist is sitting on this story. That’s why I don’t think anyone connected to City or the PL who has the information would brief off record on condition of it not being published.

The only reason anyone would brief this story off record is if they actually wanted it to be published (because they know no journalist would sit on the biggest scoop if British football history)
 
Prestwich_Blue said:
I'll tell you what's going through my suspicious mind currently. That the outcome is known and has been for a couple of months. I've said this before and I'm standing by that (until I'm told otherwise). There was too much noise around March time for there not to be some smoke, even if the fire didn't catch hold.

When you read that MEN piece Link (and maybe I'm reading it wrong or with confirmation bias) there's a couple of things that stand out. The first is this phrase -
"it has now been five without a published result". Note that word 'published'. To me that implies there has been a result but it hasn't yet been published. The other thing is Khaldoon's tone, which is "be patient, it's coming". The impression I get from that is he knows the result but things just have to take their course. But what is that course?

I'm going to speculate that this outcome is so bad for one or more parties that they are finished.

For the party most obviously at risk, his employer may have been quietly head-hunting his successor, who might have to be more experienced at crisis-management than marketing. Another party who may be at risk is involved with a club that's had, for them, a successful season by winning a trophy at the end of the season and they didn't want anything to detract from that. Maybe it suits us to wait until the CWC is done and dusted, as we don't want any distractions before then.

As I said, this is pure speculation but could explain the situation.
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I honestly think you are running away with speculation there. And it is getting a bit wild.

He could just well mean exactly what he says. There is no ruling, one is coming (it has to at some point) and we have to be patient and wait. What he feels he has to say may not change depending on the verdict, but still inappropriate to say now hence he has to wait.
 
johnny crossan said:
Bajkowski finished his MUEN hit piece by quoting Ratboy blaming City for the delay in characteristically incoherent style:
"That Manchester City case is a disgrace; it's an absolute stain to the game," Neville said. "I have a lot of admiration for City, but I don't buy into this theory that clubs do really well, and City have, but it is still a stain to the game.
"It has just been dragging on for years and years, it's an absolute joke. Yes, City have been defending themselves, but they've been pushing it so far into the long grass that you end up losing the will to live on it and you forget about it. It just needs to be dealt with."

How do they get away with these libellous attacks?
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I’d say ‘pushing it so far into the long grass’ probably falls short of an actionable libellous statement.
 
gordondaviesmoustache said:
I’d say ‘pushing it so far into the long grass’ probably falls short of an actionable libellous statement.
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It’s not actionable but saying “you end up losing the will to live on it” gives an insight into Neville’s self-importance.

As if his feelings are of any consideration in a tribunal between City and the PL.
 
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