PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

[TheGhost]

I'll tell you what's going through my suspicious mind currently. That the outcome is known and has been for a couple of months. I've said this before and I'm standing by that (until I'm told otherwise). There was too much noise around March time for there not to be some smoke, even if the fire didn't catch hold.

When you read that MEN piece Link (and maybe I'm reading it wrong or with confirmation bias) there's a couple of things that stand out. The first is this phrase -
"it has now been five without a published result". Note that word 'published'. To me that implies there has been a result but it hasn't yet been published. The other thing is Khaldoon's tone, which is "be patient, it's coming". The impression I get from that is he knows the result but things just have to take their course. But what is that course?

I'm going to speculate that this outcome is so bad for one or more parties that they are finished.

For the party most obviously at risk, his employer may have been quietly head-hunting his successor, who might have to be more experienced at crisis-management than marketing. Another party who may be at risk is involved with a club that's had, for them, a successful season by winning a trophy at the end of the season and they didn't want anything to detract from that. Maybe it suits us to wait until the CWC is done and dusted, as we don't want any distractions before then.

As I said, this is pure speculation but could explain the situation.

So what you’re saying is a hack at the MuEN knows that City have received the result.

But hasn’t broken the next stage of the biggest story in the history of the game.

But he’s decided to drop a one word hint into an article that no one is going to read.

Well it could be true.

 

[citizen_maine]

All bullets are reserved for
Richards Masters and himself;-)

115 bullets might be slight overkill.

Have we hired John Wick?

 

[dadnlad]

115 bullets might be slight overkill.

Have we hired John Wick?

Rasmus Birtles holding gun

 

[Norbert D]

115 bullets might be slight overkill.

Have we hired John Wick?

Sounds like there is enough ammo to sort out Spit and Ratboy as well.

 

[ganganvince]

Sounds like there is enough ammo to sort out Spit and Ratboy as well.

Not if Nunez is shooting.

 

[searsleftpeg]

It would be a gross dereliction of duty for any tribunal decision maker to task anyone with writing their determination for them. In cases such as this, these determinations are incredibly complex expositions which require a hugely layered and nuanced narrative in order to get the findings across in a way that is cogent, logical, coherent and as appeal proof as possible. They are essentially a novel where all the pieces of the plot need to fit together. Any worthwhile novelist wouldn’t get their PA to write their story for them - why would any tribunal member?

And no disrespect to anyone else, but these people are intellectually on a level that the vast majority of people within the legal profession, never mind the wider public, would be unable to formulate the appropriate form of words to express the conclusions based on the assimilation of huge quantities of material incorporating extremely complex legal issues.

A judgment, if it is well written and considered, truly is a thing of beauty and something to be both respected and admired. Why would any self respecting judge or tribunal member want to put that important and far-reaching undertaking in the hands of someone else?

Your reply is well written, so goodness knows what the official report will be like to understand. Will they produce a report for those, like me abit intellectually challenged, and then one with pictures for the P.L. suits and pundits .

 

[mancboy]

115 bullets might be slight overkill.

Have we hired John Wick?

Behave 115 cruise missiles wouldnt be overkill for that ****

 

[halfcenturyup]

They make the decision then write up the reasons.

It must be a hell of a report. Even if there are only half a dozen or so substantive issues, there are still 130 allegations that need to be addressed individually, I suppose. And then there are those that are dependent partly or wholly on other allegations and need to be addressed in the right order.

They have my sympathy. If it's hundreds of pages, I imagine it will be riddled with mistakes. Hopefully just spelling and simple grammar but the APT award had mistakes in it and that was less than a hundred pages.

 

[Lord Blue]

Hopefully there’s a summary to accompany the full document

 

[WRicko]

I'll tell you what's going through my suspicious mind currently. That the outcome is known and has been for a couple of months. I've said this before and I'm standing by that (until I'm told otherwise). There was too much noise around March time for there not to be some smoke, even if the fire didn't catch hold.

When you read that MEN piece Link (and maybe I'm reading it wrong or with confirmation bias) there's a couple of things that stand out. The first is this phrase -
"it has now been five without a published result". Note that word 'published'. To me that implies there has been a result but it hasn't yet been published. The other thing is Khaldoon's tone, which is "be patient, it's coming". The impression I get from that is he knows the result but things just have to take their course. But what is that course?

I'm going to speculate that this outcome is so bad for one or more parties that they are finished.

For the party most obviously at risk, his employer may have been quietly head-hunting his successor, who might have to be more experienced at crisis-management than marketing. Another party who may be at risk is involved with a club that's had, for them, a successful season by winning a trophy at the end of the season and they didn't want anything to detract from that. Maybe it suits us to wait until the CWC is done and dusted, as we don't want any distractions before then.

As I said, this is pure speculation but could explain the situation.

Khaldoon said no ruling not no report not we cannot say anything yet. Suggest no decision yet only good vibes

 

[cheekybids]

Would there have been feedback from the tribunal? Official I mean, is that part of the process? I'm just interested.

Surely the KCs give feedback to City.

 

[WRicko]

But the case is finished so there is a ruling, it's just not written up and published yet

Our legal team and the club will know what the ruling is but can't say anything yet

That makes no sense. Seems contradictory and circular

 

[cheekybids]

Surely when you’re paying a barrister & lawyers megabucks - you’re going to have a full discussion & breakdown on how the tribunal went. The lawyers will report on whether they felt their evidence was received well & indeed, whether the PL’s evidence was valid.

Sure - the tribunal might go away & produce a surprising decision but on the whole, Khaldoon will have been provided with a well thought out report on how the hearing went.

His attitude suggests he is happy. Either way, they’ll fight on because they’ve had enough of the continual corruption within the PL.

Probably just a text…..

“Smashed the cunts!”

The Baron x

 

[jockblue]

Hopefully there’s a summary to accompany the full document

More than that, lets hope there's a clear executive summary that the journalists can understand and copy out. The problem with the CAS report was that there was a very long summary, and it was too much for most of them to bother reading so they just fed their readers the usual bullshit.

 

[johnny crossan]

So what you’re saying is a hack at the MuEN knows that City have received the result.
But hasn’t broken the next stage of the biggest story in the history of the game.
But he’s decided to drop a one word hint into an article that no one is going to read.
Well it could be true.

Considerably more than a 'Ghost' of a chance City & the PL know the outcome, it's a cast iron certainty and those on here who actually believe the contrary need to give their heads a wobble ;-)

 

[CC1]

Probably just a text…..

“Smashed the cunts!”

The Baron x

Like that :-)

 

[give it to gordon]

Would I be right in saying the KC have made their decision and the hold up is them having to write it up ?

 

[chaddblue]

That makes no sense. Seems contradictory and circular

Makes perfect sense to me ... and to many other posters who have suggested the same thing

 

[BAB.DAB]

Khaldoon said no ruling not no report not we cannot say anything yet. Suggest no decision yet only good vibes

Guardiola shares when Man City will learn 115 charges fate after transfer spree

Manchester City have been the subject of a hearing after being alleged to have breached 115 of the Premier League's financial rules, with a verdict now expected imminently

www.mirror.co.uk

Pep was expecting a ruling in March

 

[andypandy]

From outset the club has always said we have done nothing wrong and that we have irrefutable evidence to prove our position. We even welcomed this investigation from the point of view that it will put to bed all allegations / accusations once and for all.

So if we take the clubs standpoint and their declaration of irrefutable evidence as correct and truthful, and we have no reason not to, then of course the outcome is already known and has been even before this fucking charade even started.

Yes, there may be some curve balls thrown at us but until its proven otherwise (and I very much doubt it will be) we will be found not guilty of all charges, except maybe those relating to non-co-operation.

The club / CFG is / are run by professionals with a high level of integrity and business acumen, unlike the shit show that is the PL.