The Labour Government

[TinFoilHat]

She now needs to introduce a Stasi to remove the naysayers.

It's already inside the party.

 

[Brewster's millions]

If she’s pissing off the right, then I’d suggest she’s doing a great job ;-)

Not sure you could be further from the truth if you tried.

 

[bluethrunthru]

I think it was on politics live last week a tory talking about rich cunts fucking off should Labour introduce wealth taxes. The lefty was on the ball with their answer. I can't rememember who it was. To paraphrase; "Their patrotism only extends to keeping their money and not investing in the country they proclaim they love"

I think it was Torsten Bell?

 

[Hertzblue]

Yep we took a wrong turn at some point and instead of turning back just ploughed on regardless.

Like a lost bloke in a car whose ego won't allow him to except he fucked it up, if he ends up in grimsby rather than Windermere so be it.

Indeed, I think the point in question was right here...

Followed by the dreadful Brown and then a so called Tory Prime Minister who revelled in calling himself the " Heir to Blair" FFS.
Since this point we have been badly served by successive governments, all following the same path - cannot admit their mistakes, cannot change course, unwilling to face into the issues.
I think only bankruptcy will provide the momentum for the change required.
We are so far gone the medicine may kill the patient.

 

[Brewster's millions]

Replaced by who?

Not an easy answer because Labour have made a great deal about Reeves being the first female Chancellor, so unless they want to lose face on that, then it rather ties their hands.

I don’t think Starmer will sack her because he’d unsettle his own position in doing so. I suspect it’s more likely that he goes at some point next year and then the new PM amends the fiscal rules with a new Chancellor in place.

She really was poor this morning though, struggling with questions which were easy to predict and prepare for. Her answer regarding the cut in the foreign aid budget paying for the new defence commitments was particularly bad given the announcements of this week.

 

[mosssideblue]

Not an easy answer because Labour have made a great deal about Reeves being the first female Chancellor, so unless they want to lose face on that, then it rather ties their hands.

I don’t think Starmer will sack her because he’d unsettle his own position in doing so. I suspect it’s more likely that he goes at some point next year and then the new PM amends the fiscal rules with a new Chancellor in place.

She really was poor this morning though, struggling with questions which were easy to predict and prepare for. Her answer regarding the cut in the foreign aid budget paying for the new defence commitments was particularly bad given the announcements of this week.

I think Keir will lead Labour into the next GE and win it

 

[Churchlawtonblue]

Not an easy answer because Labour have made a great deal about Reeves being the first female Chancellor, so unless they want to lose face on that, then it rather ties their hands.

I don’t think Starmer will sack her because he’d unsettle his own position in doing so. I suspect it’s more likely that he goes at some point next year and then the new PM amends the fiscal rules with a new Chancellor in place.

She really was poor this morning though, struggling with questions which were easy to predict and prepare for. Her answer regarding the cut in the foreign aid budget paying for the new defence commitments was particularly bad given the announcements of this week.

I find her very robotic and not a natural speaker, but at the end of the day, that doesn't matter as long as the economy does OK. The growth from earlier in the year was a welcome surprise, let's see if she can carry that on?

 

[hampshireblue]

Yep we took a wrong turn at some point and instead of turning back just ploughed on regardless.

Like a lost bloke in a car whose ego won't allow him to except he fucked it up, if he ends up in grimsby rather than Windermere so be it.

Sounds a bit like the B word.

 

[hampshireblue]

Doesn't matter she is not up to the job

A typical response-they can't be any worse-even if they are untried so probably will be.

 

[Churchlawtonblue]

Doesn't matter she is not up to the job

How long are you prepared to give her before judgement. I would say a year of results at least. We have had 2 quarters so far? Doesn't seem long enough to me.

 

[hilts]

How long are you prepared to give her before judgement. I would say a year of results at least. We have had 2 quarters so far? Doesn't seem long enough to me.

There is so much beyond her or any chancellors control that it's open to debate. Growth is good, good by what measurement?, would it have been better without her doing.......... and you argue the opposite if growth is bad.

 

[Churchlawtonblue]

There is so much beyond her or any chancellors control that it's open to debate. Growth is good, good by what measurement?, would it have been better without her doing.......... and you argue the opposite if growth is bad.

Well I agree with that, but how else would you gauge how good she is ? If the economy is growing and doing well, I don't really care how awkward she is inftont of the cameras.

 

[bluethrunthru]

On the local news they were talking about the extension to the Tyne and Wear Metro as a result of todays spending announcement. One response -

"I'll believe it when I see it they started talking about it 10 years ago why are they only getting round to it now?"

These people walk amongst us scarily

 

[hilts]

Well I agree with that, but how else would you gauge how good she is ? If the economy is growing and doing well, I don't really care how awkward she is inftont of the cameras.

Haven't paid her much attention recently tbh, we are good at goal post moving on here so here's a question without a right or wrong answer, what figures would you class disappointing, good and great?

 

[TinFoilHat]

What route will the tram go to stockport?

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

What route will the tram go to stockport?

Seems like the current idea is to extend out from East Didsbury and use an old, dormant train line to Heaton Mersey and then a new spur would need to be built to go over the M60 and into Stockport centre.

 

[TinFoilHat]

What route will the tram go to stockport?

That makes sense. Instead they'll rip up levenshulme and follow the bus route instead.

 

[BerkshireBlue]

How long are you prepared to give her before judgement. I would say a year of results at least. We have had 2 quarters so far? Doesn't seem long enough to me.

Has to be 4 years plus. The country is in a piss poor place and it's going to take decades to turn it around

 

[Churchlawtonblue]

Haven't paid her much attention recently tbh, we are good at goal post moving on here so here's a question without a right or wrong answer, what figures would you class disappointing, good and great?

Good question. There are a couple of markers that you can compare future growth to. Firstly past growth, which since 2000 has been averaging about 1.8 to 2% per annum and secondly Labour's stated annual target of 2.5%.

IMHO I would say annual growth of less than 1.8% would be disappointing, 1.8% to 2.5% would be good and greater than 2.5% great.

 

[Vic]

Seems like the current idea is to extend out from East Didsbury and use an old, dormant train line to Heaton Mersey and then a new spur would need to be built to go over the M60 and into Stockport centre.

That's the only plan I know of. I don't understand all the rejoicing. Apart from people living near a couple of new stations between East Didsbury and Stockport (Heaton Mersey and Cheadle Heath?) why would anyone use it to commute to Manchester? 40 minutes by tram from Mersey Square to St Peter's Square or 8 minutes by train from Edgeley to Piccadilly...