PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

nijinsky69 said:
Pure speculation on my part but I think when Pep said he thought one month to a decision he genuinely believed that based on what he was being advised by the club and that presumably reflected what the lawyers thought. Then something happened to delay the handing down of the judgment - potentially an application by the PL to exclude certain evidence or they were able to convince the tribunal that best interests of the PL were served by a delay. Who knows. I am convinced that City have not been officially told the result but can deduce the outcome from the proceedings, the demeanour of the panel, their questions etc. For all we know the PL may have conceded on certain charges given the strength of City’s evidence.
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Have to say that it was odd hearing Pep say that because I think it was way back in February. While I wouldn't expect it to be in exactly 1 month's time after he said it, it's not unreasonable to have expected it to be in a couple of months, yet here we are about 5 months later!
 
manimanc said:
I can only think that the Premier League haven't found someone as thick as masters to come in or whoever has come in has realised the corruption going on and said see you later.
Unless they are still waiting for the rags and the dippers to choose the perfect puppet to manipulate again.
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well the first three they chose before masters wanted nothing to do with it, so it would seem they either want to find another masters who will act like an obedient lapdog or tear it down and start again, personally i think they will find another masters as we have seen everytime the rags sign a player dignity is cheap these days.
 
M18CTID said:
Have to say that it was odd hearing Pep say that because I think it was way back in February. While I wouldn't expect it to be in exactly 1 month's time after he said it, it's not unreasonable to have expected it to be in a couple of months, yet here we are about 5 months later!
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I agree. It’s very odd.
 
Churchlawtonblue said:
He said he had information from the very top, I assumed that to be from the top of the information tree, not second hand information. Any information from elsewhere is surely second hand and isn't from the very top imho.

Maybe I have just interpreted the words "from the very top of the food chain" incorrectly?
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Purely IMO you have, yes. It surely means someone at City, not the panel…..
 
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as far as i can see,
there are only 2 possibilities here...


the first is that the verdict has not been released.
in which case both stefan and ahsan have been correctly informed of this by their sources.

my conclusion from that is either:
a) p.b. has been incorrectly informed.
b) p.b. is chatting total shit.

my analysis of it being:
a) given that p.b.'s source knows full well that he posts on here, they would have little or nothing to gain from doing that.
b) p.b. would have little or nothing to gain from doing that if it all comes out in the wash and is discovered to be the case.


the second is that the verdict has been released, in which case p.b. has been correctly informed by his source.

my conclusion from that is either:
a) stefan and/or ahsan have been incorrectly informed.
b) stefan and/or ahsan are chatting total shit.

my (more complex) analysis of it being:
a1) stefan's sources don't know the verdict.
a2) stefan's sources know the verdict but have chosen not to tell him yet because they know he posts on here.
a3) stefan's sources have told him but he's not going to let on.
a4) ahsan's sources don't know the verdict.
a5) ahsan's sources know the verdict but have chosen not to tell him yet because they know he posts on here.
a6) ahsan's sources have told him but he's not going to let on.
b) stefan and/or ahsan would have little or nothing to gain from doing that if it all comes out in the wash and is discovered to be the case.


in summary:
i think at least one person, club source or bluemoon poster, is telling a lie.



for what it's worth,
my ten penneth is i don't care one jot what the outcome is,
or who the liar(s) might be.
i am and always will be ctid
 
slbsn said:
BTW if you think City will be in the mood to help the PL with comms of a City win by delaying for months, then you haven’t been listening or watching
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Yeah that's particularly implausible.

Hey, you accused us of fraud and your case collapsed, and we're under a cloud of suspicion and uncertainty, but yeah we'll agree to delay publication to help you out.

This simply would never happen.
 
Thought i'd add my two pence.

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Ric said:
I'm the opposite tbh. For about 18 months after the charges were first announced, it was on my mind a lot and I was pretty stressed thinking about the possible outcome and ramifications. It's dragged on so long now that I find myself less arsed these days. Partly fatigued by it all, partly because of all the soft signals from the club. Even in the very worst case scenario, I'd just think fuck it and carry on supporting the club regardless, as I have my whole life. Nothing would detract from the memories of the treble, Centurions season etc.
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Nothing will change the memories I agree, but I’d quite like to be able to go the shops/pub/park etc, in a City top again, without some twat shouting ‘fucking cheat’ from a passing van or squaring up to me all red-faced in Tesco…..
 
Exeter Blue I am here said:
Nothing will change the memories I agree, but I’d quite like to be able to go the shops/pub/park etc, in a City top again, without some twat shouting ‘fucking cheat’ from a passing van or squaring up to me all red-faced in Tesco…..
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laugh at them, thats all they are worth
 
calumdown said:
as far as i can see,
there are only 2 possibilities here...


the first is that the verdict has not been released.
in which case both stefan and ahsan have been correctly informed of this by their sources.

my conclusion from that is either:
a) p.b. has been incorrectly informed.
b) p.b. is chatting total shit.

my analysis of it being:
a) given that p.b.'s source knows full well that he posts on here, they would have little or nothing to gain from doing that.
b) p.b. would have little or nothing to gain from doing that if it all comes out in the wash and is discovered to be the case.


the second is that the verdict has been released, in which case p.b. has been correctly informed by his source.

my conclusion from that is either:
a) stefan and/or ahsan have been incorrectly informed.
b) stefan and/or ahsan are chatting total shit.

my (more complex) analysis of it being:
a1) stefan's sources don't know the verdict.
a2) stefan's sources know the verdict but have chosen not to tell him yet because they know he posts on here.
a3) stefan's sources have told him but he's not going to let on.
a4) ahsan's sources don't know the verdict.
a5) ahsan's sources know the verdict but have chosen not to tell him yet because they know he posts on here.
a6) ahsan's sources have told him but he's not going to let on.
b) stefan and/or ahsan would have little or nothing to gain from doing that if it all comes out in the wash and is discovered to be the case.


in summary:
i think at least one person, club source or bluemoon poster, is telling a lie.



for what it's worth,
my ten penneth is i don't care one jot what the outcome is,
or who the liar(s) might be.
i am and always will be ctid
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There certainly are two possibilities. And one is infinitely more possible than other.
 
Prestwich_Blue said:
Based on the little I know, my understanding is that the outcome has been decided for a few months.

The PL have requested the delay in publication and my supposition is that they want the time to headhunt a new CEO, because Masters won't survive once the verdict is public.
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Along with every one else, I am desperate for this to be true.

What doesn't fit right with me is the issue of leaks. I can certainly get my head round that nothing leaks from the panel - they are used to the need for secrecy - even their staff will be used to not leaking.

But then you stretch to a few top people at CITY and the PL - again I can (just about) get my head around nothing leaking - CITY playing the long game and Masters not wanting to be outed.

But when you start going to executive research companies then I cannot see that becomes credible - there will be a few candidates - they all have family and friends - all of a sudden the people that know Masters is to be replaced become scores - and once his departure is leaked then the rest falls into place.
 
CC1 said:
I so hope this is right but I doubt it as there would have been a leak
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Maybe not with something as seismic as this. Transfers absolutely but not a chance we would leak anything but if you want to flip it on it's head then every paid shill and nobhead out of the WhatsApp group would have been fed snippets from the premier league and the American owners that we're on shit street.
Fact.
And @Prestwich_Blue i fully believe you when you say you've heard something as I know you have your club sources.
 
Just to clarify, @slbsn , I know you've said PB's information about us knowing for months etc is 100% wrong.

Is it your understanding that we still don't know? As in since you last wrote that we didn't know, nothing has changed in that regard aside from we're further down the line and still nothing?

Cheers.
 
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