PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

[oakiecokie]

How big of a deal is this, to us? @slbsn @halfcenturyup ?

MASSIVE !! ;)

 

[blueste41]

This deal with Puma surely means that City somehow has assured Puma that we will not be found quilty
there is no way Puma would sign a 10 year deal with this hanging over every one why should they
@slbsn and @Prestwich_Blue what do you think , If you were Puma CEO you would NOT sign this deal unless you are sure that City is not guilty of fraud, if there is 0.00001% change that City are found quilty you would not sign this deal. Its common sense

i think Puma would most certainly have brought it up prior to signing off the deal, could you imagine the damage to Puma if were guilty and had the book thrown at us, an iterview with Pep over cheating while Puma is splashed all over the place would be a sponsorship disaster

Whatever Puma have been told they must think there is more than a 0.00001% possibility of guilt based purely on the fact that charges have been brought and are being looked at.
Every deal and signing has been seen a as a sign of our innocence by Blues for some time. The last one I remember was Viagogo not wanting to risk their reputation by becoming an official resale partner!
The fact is if we are found guilty of anything it won't reflect on any of our sponsors at all unless they are somehow involved.

 

[blueste41]

Does it not strike anyone else that the FT article on BDO is being printed when we are (MAYBE) close to an announcement. If you read the FT article on their website, it's talking about assessments in the last 2 years (not relevant to the charges). It's almost like whoever “they” are is lining up articles and tweets etc, just so WHEN WE GRIND THEIR FACES INTO THE DIRT, which I am sure we will!. They can then carry on with the black arts campaign to discredit us at every turn. We'll never win that battle.

It's being printed because the FRC have just (8 hours ago) published their annual Review of Audit Quality, did you want the FT to wait 6 months before publishing or do you think the FRC are out to get us as well now?

 

[chris85mcfc]

Puma are going to look so silly when we are found guilty of all of the major charges, and deducted enough points to be relegated

I know they'll likely have clauses that allow them to get out of the contract, which I doubt they'll be to concerned about in terms of brand, values and from an ethical point of view

 

[Legalamb777]

But if we genuinely don't know the outcome then what assurances can we give them?

Class PB

 

[feedmpenzaandhewillscore]

Puma are going to look so silly when we are found guilty of all of the major charges, and deducted enough points to be relegated

I know they'll likely have clauses that allow them to get out of the contract, which I doubt they'll be to concerned about in terms of brand, values and from an ethical point of view

That £100 million a year kit deal plus the £70 million from Etihad should give us an edge on clubs in the National league shouldn’t it.

 

[Centurions]

I worked at the UK Distribution Depot for Dunlop Footwear for 23 years here in Winsford where I was both Customer Service Supervisor and Goods Inwards Foreman.
This is the truth but our Green Flash in its heyday was a massive seller and we did up to size 18 in that make. Seriously that is not a whopper its true a bastard size 18 with a massive box.

A size 18 with a massive box? I knew a girl like that once.

 

[its a Barm]

That £100 million a year kit deal plus the £70 million from Etihad should give us an edge on clubs in the National league shouldn’t it.

Just about

 

[oakiecokie]

A size 18 with a massive box? I knew a girl like that once.

Size 18 box !! Had she been hit with an axe ?

 

[Gundoggin]

Timing of the Net Spend Red Cartel £120 million bid for Isak after MCFC £1 billion deal with Puma stinks to high heaven . All out war this ………..

 

[TheGhost]

Does it not strike anyone else that the FT article on BDO is being printed when we are (MAYBE) close to an announcement. If you read the FT article on their website, it's talking about assessments in the last 2 years (not relevant to the charges). It's almost like whoever “they” are is lining up articles and tweets etc, just so WHEN WE GRIND THEIR FACES INTO THE DIRT, which I am sure we will!. They can then carry on with the black arts campaign to discredit us at every turn. We'll never win that battle.

I think the PDC won the battle in Darts a long time ago.

I went to the Lakeside for the BDO Darts Final about 10 years ago and it was pretty shit.

 

[Marvin.]

Whilst City are not in receipt of the detailed judgement, they have convinced Pep, Haaland, Marmoush and Puma to enter into very significant contracts.

 

[HelloCity]

The good news about the Puma deal is that the clowns at the PL can't block it or assess it for FMV. I bet they're really pissed off

And if Puma can give us £100m then why can't Etihad in any renewal - considering FMV for our sponsorship is proven through the former?

They don't have a leg to stand on now in terms of turning down an Etihad increase.

 

[Kippax77]

A size 18 with a massive box? I knew a girl like that once.

Me too.
I've never been the same since

 

[Superace]

I agree with most of what you say here, but playing devil’s advocate…

City is a highly-desirable brand for a kit manufacturer to have in the portfolio. If Puma took the opposite stance and decided against renewing then someone else would step in, whether that is Adidas, Nike or whoever.

Once you’ve lost that brand, you’re not getting it back for a decade due to the contract cycle.

Puma may well have balanced losing a jewel in their crown to a rival for the next 10 years against the likelihood of City being found guilty and decided it’s a risk worth taking.

In the event City are found guilty, I have no doubt Puma have ways to mitigate the situation. Conversely, if they let City move to a rival kit manufacturer, there is no way back once the 115 verdict lands and city are cleared.

They wouldn't have lost city by waiting, we are under contract until 2030, they could have waited 6 months easily.

 

[Big Joe Corrigan]

Me too.
I've never been the same since

Me neither, there was a bloke in there looking for a tractor.

 

[CTID_]

I think the club's position of we are innocent has been the truth.

 

[Micky Blue]

How big of a deal is this, to us? @slbsn @halfcenturyup ?

I know you’ve not asked me and I’m no expert.
But as far as I’m aware it means fuck all to us.
There’s nothing to indicate BDO have done anything wrong with auditing city.

It calls out Carillion and Valerie Patisserie.
In terms of the latter I believe they were hiding losses in an account which was undisclosed to the auditors.

I wouldn’t be worried in the slightest by this.

 

[northendenton]

Thats just pillow talk.

It's a lot of sheet

 

[Oldham Exile]

I've said consistently for the last two years that the PL had no chance of proving the most serious allegations to the standard required even in the unlikely case that the club did what was alleged. That is still my view.

On the minor issues (Fordham, Touré and the rest) I find it hard to judge based on what information is available, but I am minded to believe Khaldoon on those.

Is that good enough?

The Fordham, Toure, Mancini allegations just seem such pathetically trivial matters when you consider some of the major things going on at other clubs

Assuming, there is no chance of the PL winning on the major charges, just what/who the fuck has approved this years long campaign on such trial matters

Has to be tied back to the scum and dippers having the right to 'screen' Nasters before his appointment

I am desperate for City to go on the attack once the announcement is made

I took a measure of comfort/confidence in that regard from Simon Cliff's actions following ATP case