The Labour Government

[bluethrunthru]

If someone asked me what was the best place to find suggestions on how to cut government spending, government web pages would be below the village idiot on my list.

it wasn't to find suggestions on how to cut spending I went on there to review what the govt and the previous govt have done - if you are so far down the rabbit hole you distrust govt published web pages then you are lost

 

[hampshireblue]

God help me.

I think a few of us have thought that for a while. I hope he/she helps.

 

[Brewster's millions]

Thanks.

So part privatisation of the NHS? I agree to a point that the model is broken.
Defence: If we can't see the threat now, we never will. I would however like to see more of the proposed spending within the UK.
Nett Zero: At present the vast majority of the proposed spending on this come from private sources.
Foreign aid has been substantially reduced and is now used towards the migrant issue. But it's important that we still help countries if it helps alleviate the migrant issue at source.
Welfare: whenever the government have tried to make changes and savings, different groups oppose and as happenend recently rejected the proposed overhaul.
Government: I agree
Irregular migration: not easily done as we have seen

Are you personally affected by any of the proposed solutions?

Yeah, we can’t possibly reduce welfare expenditure, can we?

And this government’s failure to implement spending cuts was presumably only because a quarter of the population are genuinely disabled, rather than any incompetence and weakness on their behalf.

 

[hampshireblue]

Yeah, we can’t possibly reduce welfare expenditure, can we?

And this government’s failure to implement spending cuts was presumably only because a quarter of the population are genuinely disabled, rather than any incompetence and weakness on their behalf.

I'm sure we can but where do we start considering some of the below are "untouchable"?

Breakdown of Welfare Spending (2025/26 UK Forecast)

• Total UK Welfare Spending: ~£326.9 billion
• Pensioner Benefits: ~£174.9 billion (55% of total)
• Working-Age and Children's Welfare: ~£141.2 billion
  • Universal Credit (and predecessors): A significant portion of this figure.
• Disability and Health Benefits: ~£75.3 billion
• Housing Benefits: ~£35.3 billion

 

[Hertzblue]

You still banging on about your hypothetical scenario which you've seemingly now made into a fact?

I don't see my hypothetical scenarios being re-butted do you ? Plenty of opportunity, even two different ones - nothing! There are plenty on here who espouse the same kind of views who would fail the same test. To be fair not you though I don't think, a daft fucker maybe but not a hypocrite.

 

[hcblue95]

Yeah, we can’t possibly reduce welfare expenditure, can we?

And this government’s failure to implement spending cuts was presumably only because a quarter of the population are genuinely disabled, rather than any incompetence and weakness on their behalf.

I do find it funny that in your world, the stuff that the tories did that was so great is now so bad.

 

[Hertzblue]

I'm sure we can but where do we start considering some of the below are "untouchable"?

Breakdown of Welfare Spending (2025/26 UK Forecast)

• Total UK Welfare Spending: ~£326.9 billion
• Pensioner Benefits:~£174.9 billion (55% of total)
• Working-Age and Children's Welfare:~£141.2 billion
  • Universal Credit (and predecessors): A significant portion of this figure.
• Disability and Health Benefits: ~£75.3 billion
• Housing Benefits: ~£35.3 billion

It appears you have jumped aboard HMS I'm alright Jack as Chief officer to Captain Bob.
Everything is to difficult to deal with, don't know where to start , steady as she goes - into the rocks if need be.

Do you really propose to carry on as we are ?

 

[Postman Pep]

Don't think they thought this one through ..

 

[hampshireblue]

It appears you have jumped aboard HMS I'm alright Jack as Chief officer to Captain Bob.
Everything is to difficult to deal with, don't know where to start , steady as she goes - into the rocks if need be.

Do you really propose to carry on as we are ?

Not sure what the first bit means regarding I'm alright, but: I pointed out the facts of where the money is spent. Of course changes and savings need to be made.

I've previously suggested changes to the state pension that would affect me adversely. How many on here are genuinely prepared to put their money where their mouth is and be adversely affected?

Now, where shall we start from those categories above?

 

[Hertzblue]

Not sure what the first bit means regarding I'm alright, but: I pointed out the facts of where the money is spent. Of course changes and savings need to be made.

I've previously suggested changes to the state pension that would affect me adversely. How many on here are genuinely prepared to put their money where their mouth is and be adversely affected?

Now, where shall we start from those categories above?

I am glad you agree savings must be made.

I've previously suggested changes to the state pension that would affect me adversely. How many on here are genuinely prepared to put their money where their mouth is and be adversely affected?

I am not yet at state pension age but I have also suggested changes to the pension to my own detriment. For me personally, I am not looking to any political party to make me personally any better off, I accept that given the state of the nation's finances that is not going to happen. My view is that we must all take a hit.
Here is a copy of post I made in July.....

 

[TinFoilHat]

Rents going up
Energy bills going up
Grocery bills going up
Entertainment prices going up.

How does anyone on the minimum wage manage to have any money once they have covered their expenses?

But yeah, let's get wound up about dem foreigners coming here sleeping with our food and eating our women!

Whilst we fight amongst ourselves those cunts spouting hate and misinformation are getting richer. Aided by their media pals feeding us a diet of bullshit.

 

[Blue Maverick]

I am glad you agree savings must be made.

I am not yet at state pension age but I have also suggested changes to the pension to my own detriment. For me personally, I am not looking to any political party to make me personally any better off, I accept that given the state of the nation's finances that is not going to happen. My view is that we must all take a hit.
Here is a copy of post I made in July.....
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I agree with most of that but means testing the state pension will only lead to people saving the bare minimum into a pension so they get it, then probably squirreling money at home so it can’t be means tested. I’d get rid of the triple lock but it rises with inflation so you at least keep up with prices. The NHS is not fit for purpose anymore it’s trying to incorporate too much, far too much is taken for granted, you shouldn’t be entitled to an ambulance because you ask for one, for a stubbed toe, if you miss your appointment you go to the bottom of the list, if you had to pay for it from your own pocket I’m damn week sure you wouldnt miss it.
I’ve a 13 year old daughter and I’ve already talked about her not going to university unless it’s to be a doctor or something like that (no chance in my option though), get some sort of trade as AI is going to replace a hell of a lot of jobs and many degrees will be redundant with huge debt with it.
Defence is a no brainer unfortunately and the more Trump goes on I’d not only be looking eastwards I’d be looking over my shoulder as well.

 

[Ifwecouldjust.......]

I am glad you agree savings must be made.

I am not yet at state pension age but I have also suggested changes to the pension to my own detriment. For me personally, I am not looking to any political party to make me personally any better off, I accept that given the state of the nation's finances that is not going to happen. My view is that we must all take a hit.
Here is a copy of post I made in July.....
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Just tax the fucking rich

 

[Blue Maverick]

Just tax the fucking rich

Apparently they will all leave if we do!

 

[ganganvince]

I'm sure we can but where do we start considering some of the below are "untouchable"?

Breakdown of Welfare Spending (2025/26 UK Forecast)

• Total UK Welfare Spending: ~£326.9 billion
• Pensioner Benefits:~£174.9 billion (55% of total)
• Working-Age and Children's Welfare:~£141.2 billion
  • Universal Credit (and predecessors): A significant portion of this figure.
• Disability and Health Benefits: ~£75.3 billion
• Housing Benefits: ~£35.3 billion

WFA stop for all 40% tax payers
Pension tax exemption 20% flat rate
Disability payments only pay those that need it 25% is not realistic
Help those that can work back into work with sanctions for the idle
Would help.

 

[hampshireblue]

I am glad you agree savings must be made.

I am not yet at state pension age but I have also suggested changes to the pension to my own detriment. For me personally, I am not looking to any political party to make me personally any better off, I accept that given the state of the nation's finances that is not going to happen. My view is that we must all take a hit.
Here is a copy of post I made in July.....
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It's almost an AI answer or even some sort of manifesto.

 

[bluethrunthru]

Apparently they will all leave if we do!

will they take their property portfolio of 500 homes with them?

 

[hampshireblue]

WFA stop for all 40% tax payers
Pension tax exemption 20% flat rate
Disability payments only pay those that need it 25% is not realistic
Help those that can work back into work with sanctions for the idle
Would help.

Good luck with that. Apparently every pensioner NEEDED the WFA no matter what.

 

[bluethrunthru]

WFA stop for all 40% tax payers
Pension tax exemption 20% flat rate
Disability payments only pay those that need it 25% is not realistic
Help those that can work back into work with sanctions for the idle
Would help.

from what I have seen these last few days the idle are stood outside hotels doing Nazi salutes - suggest a days work or benefits sanctions to them and they would be hiding in their lofts. The workshy the Right refer to are the followers they need. Nobody I have seen on these demo's, has a limp, is an amputee and given their shouting their breathing is just fine - get them fuckers doing 40hrs a week on minimum wage

 

[Blue Maverick]

will they take their property portfolio of 500 homes with them?

Exactly, will they fuck, for every extra house someone owns they should double the tax like they’ve done in Wales, and fir every subsequent one it should double again, watch those houses come back on the market.