PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

I think SCOTUS has a view on this. All US owned clubs can apparently appeal to Trump if City are cleared.
 
Mancity1980 said:
Three clubs owned by Americans at the time, Abramovich sold Chelsea a full 12 months after the Super League announcement, Spurs are British owned. So, there is an argument that three clubs were pressured to go along with it. The questions that need to be asked is did these 3 American owners buy into the EPL with the Super League in mind? (my opinion absolutely) and did the 3 non- American owners buy their clubs for the same reason (my opinion no).
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All fair points.
 
johnnytapia said:
Glazer. On our website.
We had a choice. And we chose THAT. Unfuckingforgiveable in extremis.
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Now let's be completely fair here. Those magnificent Glazer gentlemen have been staunch friends to Manchester City FC. Over many years now, they have neutered City's biggest rivals and provided us with more comedy moments than we could ever have dreamed of. And they resolutely continue their stranglehold, delivering enduring despair to our dear neighbours. Three cheers for those awesome Glazer boys!!! The notorious Old Toilet banner is long gone, and Uncle Malc's progeny deserve much of the credit for that.
 
gordondaviesmoustache said:
It must be genius level sarcasm because I’m fucked if I can spot it. And even if it is it doesn’t detract from the point that in the absence of any evidence that City have deployed those tactics, reference to them in that article is both gratuitous and malicious.

As @bobbyowenquiff pointed out, as respondents to this action the club had no choice but to defend their position and deal with the allegations. His talk of city ‘countering’ the PL ‘so aggressively’ conspicuously (and consciously no doubt) fails to acknowledge this. The club is fucking defending itself. Any well-resourced commercial organisation facing an existential threat is going to deploy all the resources it can to resist such an attack. This is undeniable.

The number of charges is not something of the club’s choosing either, and such a charge sheet necessarily and logically requires longer to address than otherwise. Again this is undeniable.

Perhaps the most telling reveal of his intellectual dishonesty, however, is where on the one hand he lauds City’s ‘world class squad of legal experts’ in whose ‘brilliance’ he revels in respect of the 115, and yet on the other he questions the purpose of the same lawyer’s strategic approach to the APT settlement. Imperious in one dispute, and simultaneously clueless in the other. Fitting his interpretation around the conclusion he wants to arrive at, as people advancing a dishonest argument are prone to do.

And nowhere in there does he in any substantive way criticise the PL or suggest that there is even a possibility that these proceedings could have been flawed from the outset, rather than being rendered so by City’s ‘world class squad of legal experts’.

As the last few paragraphs descended into pseudo-gibberish I expect he was feeling little but frustration and overwhelming disappointment that his previous strident predictions of doom for the club were wholly misconceived and rather than acknowledge that, instead he went on an incoherent rant about the inequity of the overarching power of billionaires in a league that is replete with them.

The bloke‘s a **** and nowhere near as smart as he thinks he is.
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He could have simply written Cheating Dastardly Imperial Arab Billionaires . It would have saved a lot of time . Is he paid by word count ?

Seems to turn a blind eye to most of the other Cheating Dastardly Billionaires owners on the block . Or are they all at the Good End Stage Capitalist end of the equation ? The same ones who voted through illegal APT rules despite a warning we would take them to court if they continued to pursue this . The same ones who have the press in their pocket, not just the Redtops but all those old broadsheets whose readers think this sort of word salad and pretentious metaphor twaddle is Really Well Argued and Ironic .

He casts Masters as someone who should be pitied , an innocent abroad , not a yes man for the cartel . Like a ringmaster at a circus who woke up in The Battle of the Somme

Oh and moaning about heavy gun commercial wrangles that end up in the law courts , when it really is only "Light Entertainment " is so disingenuous, when the whole reason the PL was set up was to globally capitalise working class and much loved domestic product . They got lucky with their timing ( violence , crap grounds and some terrible disasters ) but , make no mistake , they were ruthless and self serving. .Why not go after the breakaway clubs that wanted to keep the TV money all to themselves and write off a hundred years of history in the football league . A bit revisionist surely ?

It was the PL made City's ownership an inevitability and it was the PL that allowed it . Everyone the world over understood the enormous brand recognition of a successful club and the PL needed a rich owner to come in to spend spend spend .

It's not end stage capitalism, Barney, as much as End Stage Premier League Arrogance. Cheats all of them and Dastardly Asset Stripping Financial Obscuring Indebted Rule Bending Billionaires .

I'm not a fan of any of them tbh but if our owners are bad aren't they all ? We've just got owners who will go to war if they have to. Get over it .
 
It should never have started after CAS.

Nothing but a witch hunt dressed up as sporting equality.

The power certain clubs have is there for all to witness.

Fair competition? Haha good one.

All we can hope for after all this is the target removed from our shirt. I feel no sympathy for the team they target next.

Better to piss inside the tent and all that.

Release the decision to clear our good name and reputation.
 
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wolviedinho said:
It should never have started after CAS.

Nothing but a witch hunt dressed up as sporting equality.

The power certain clubs have is there for all to witness.

Fair competition? Haha good one.

All we can hope for after all this is the target removed from our shirt. I feel no sympathy for the team they target next.

Better to piss inside the tent and all that.

Release the decision to clear our good name and reputation.
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They actually started their investigation in Dec 2018 which is why they only go up to that date, barring the non-cooperation which probably went up to the point they passed it off to the 3 man panel (or at least the release of the charges). CAS was 2020 so they had a chance of stopping it then although some of their charges were ruled out for UEFA due to time limits.

7 years and we still don't know either way.
 
Stoned Rose said:
This little ****, like the rest of them when this dropped, was wanking himself silly with talk of relegation, titles stripped and banishment to the 7th division. All of a sudden, he can’t be arsed with it anymore.

This bit is his last attempt at a last dig.

“Even if they are substantively punished, which increasingly just feels unlikely given the timeframe and the brilliance of City’s legal team”.

Not because we were innocent, but because it took too long and we had the cheek to hire some lawyers - both of which I’m pretty sure everyone knew would happen before this litigation was launched.

Can’t be much longer now, surely?.
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Oddly I’ve not heard anyone suggest that if we are found guilty it will be down to the brilliance of the PL’s lawyers, rather than the fact we are cheating bastards
 
gordondaviesmoustache said:
It must be genius level sarcasm because I’m fucked if I can spot it. And even if it is it doesn’t detract from the point that in the absence of any evidence that City have deployed those tactics, reference to them in that article is both gratuitous and malicious.

As @bobbyowenquiff pointed out, as respondents to this action the club had no choice but to defend their position and deal with the allegations. His talk of city ‘countering’ the PL ‘so aggressively’ conspicuously (and consciously no doubt) fails to acknowledge this. The club is fucking defending itself. Any well-resourced commercial organisation facing an existential threat is going to deploy all the resources it can to resist such an attack. This is undeniable.

The number of charges is not something of the club’s choosing either, and such a charge sheet necessarily and logically requires longer to address than otherwise. Again this is undeniable.

Perhaps the most telling reveal of his intellectual dishonesty, however, is where on the one hand he lauds City’s ‘world class squad of legal experts’ in whose ‘brilliance’ he revels in respect of the 115, and yet on the other he questions the purpose of the same lawyer’s strategic approach to the APT settlement. Imperious in one dispute, and simultaneously clueless in the other. Fitting his interpretation around the conclusion he wants to arrive at, as people advancing a dishonest argument are prone to do.

And nowhere in there does he in any substantive way criticise the PL or suggest that there is even a possibility that these proceedings could have been flawed from the outset, rather than being rendered so by City’s ‘world class squad of legal experts’.

As the last few paragraphs descended into pseudo-gibberish I expect he was feeling little but frustration and overwhelming disappointment that his previous strident predictions of doom for the club were wholly misconceived and rather than acknowledge that, instead he went on an incoherent rant about the inequity of the overarching power of billionaires in a league that is replete with them.

The bloke‘s a **** and nowhere near as smart as he thinks he is.
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No idea why, but I read those two bits in a 'Christopher Walken' accent - in his 'got to have more cowbell' voice.
 
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