PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

Stefan stated some weeks ago his theory that we could see verdict within next few weeks and he would be surprised if it ran into October without a verdict. I asked him would his surprise turn to concern of a positive outcome for us if it went into October without a verdict, he said yes.
So the positive side of me is thinking the verdict will be out this week.
The negative side is thinking we could be in the shit, which then leads me to a optimism side of could we be negotiating a deal, hence the delay.

If positive verdict it has me thinking, could the feeling be up there with 93:20, Istanbul, 3-2 villa or will it be a different feeling of joy.
I personally think its absolutely huge in a way like the Dickov goal, had that not happened could the club have done a forest, sheff wed and languish in the doldrums for years and possibly the club would not be what they are today.
 
JPAMCR said:
Interesting article From the Guardian. Seems clear that our friends at Mardarsenal were the chief wankers in our case. Lewis appointed 5 years ago, appears he won’t be missed by many.
Him and Levy going can only be good for us, whether it’s related to the decision or not.
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Probably nonsense but. I feel that City have some evidence of collusion by certain individuals and have demanded that they are removed otherwise it would be made public, remember that City asked for what's app and email messages as part of the APT case. Coincidence that Levy and Lewis both left before we played them?
 
JPAMCR said:
Interesting article From the Guardian. Seems clear that our friends at Mardarsenal were the chief wankers in our case. Lewis appointed 5 years ago, appears he won’t be missed by many.
Him and Levy going can only be good for us, whether it’s related to the decision or not.
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Pretty much confirms what most on this forum have known for years. That Levy and Lewis are bitter enemies of our club and have been amongst the prime movers against us. Both Spurs and Arsenal ( and LFC) have led the way with toxic briefings to the media trying to destroy us. The UEFA leaks were mostly LFC and United but they seem to have stepped back since then. Meanwhile while Arsenal were smearing us they were giving themselves interest free loans. Despicable.
 
Gazza said:
Guardian readers equate going to a football match to visiting the opera.
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Mind, my Old Man introduced my brothers, sisters and I to both City and Puccini et al at an early age, so thanks to him for that.

Many connections between the highbrow trilling and the 'working class opera' we all know and love so much.. I mean, for example, who could forget the flying winger for Bradford City in the early 60s who performed at Valley Parade of an afternoon then sang tenor leads at The Alhambra of an evening, Les O'Pavarotti..? He was nicknamed 'The Bantam of the Opera'*..

(* All right, all right, I'll get me coat..)
 
BAB.DAB said:
The question is why would they leave if it wasn't related to us?
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At the very least Levy and Lewis have cost their owners a large chunk of money in legal fees and that could get worse. It suggests the City case could be one factor in a bigger picture. We will soon find out who is picking up the bill for this witch-hunt.
 
Milesvk said:
So the positive side of me is thinking the verdict will be out this week.
The negative side is thinking we could be in the shit, which then leads me to a optimism side of could we be negotiating a deal, hence the delay.
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The realistic side of me says @slbsn has as little idea as the rest of us. And I say that with the greatest respect. Of course, I could have little idea of what I am talking about .....
 
Milesvk said:
Stefan stated some weeks ago his theory that we could see verdict within next few weeks and he would be surprised if it ran into October without a verdict. I asked him would his surprise turn to concern of a positive outcome for us if it went into October without a verdict, he said yes.
So the positive side of me is thinking the verdict will be out this week.
The negative side is thinking we could be in the shit, which then leads me to a optimism side of could we be negotiating a deal, hence the delay.

If positive verdict it has me thinking, could the feeling be up there with 93:20, Istanbul, 3-2 villa or will it be a different feeling of joy.
I personally think its absolutely huge in a way like the Dickov goal, had that not happened could the club have done a forest, sheff wed and languish in the doldrums for years and possibly the club would not be what they are today.
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It will be arguably the biggest victory the club has ever had. Our enemies have tried to destroy our club. Losing would be an existential threat. It could lead to our owner quitting, it would damage all the investment in Manchester and threaten thousands of long term jobs. Whatever has happened on the pitch is not on this scale.
 
Gordyola said:
Probably nonsense but. I feel that City have some evidence of collusion by certain individuals and have demanded that they are removed otherwise it would be made public, remember that City asked for what's app and email messages as part of the APT case. Coincidence that Levy and Lewis both left before we played them?
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I think that is a plausible theory. These sort of legal battles always lead to a bloodbath in the boardroom. Surely Masters will go next.
 
halfcenturyup said:
The realistic side of me says @slbsn has as little idea as the rest of us. And I say that with the greatest respect. Of course, I could have little idea of what I am talking about .....
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I'm used to taking his word as gospel, pretty much any discussion i have had with people on the outside (of bluemoon) is based on what he has said on various podcasts.

Just something as a side note and could be seen as another "soft signal". With the arsenal CEO and spurs chairman leaving suddenly, this has set our little minds going and trying to link it to 115. Ian cheesman interviewed a Labour MP when the white paper of the football regulator come out, the MP stated then that the red cartel had far too much influence in the running of the prem league, they were his words.
Could there something sizemic in the background be going on. Could this 115 case opened up a massive can of worms.
 
Milesvk said:
Stefan stated some weeks ago his theory that we could see verdict within next few weeks and he would be surprised if it ran into October without a verdict. I asked him would his surprise turn to concern of a positive outcome for us if it went into October without a verdict, he said yes.
So the positive side of me is thinking the verdict will be out this week.
The negative side is thinking we could be in the shit, which then leads me to a optimism side of could we be negotiating a deal, hence the delay.

If positive verdict it has me thinking, could the feeling be up there with 93:20, Istanbul, 3-2 villa or will it be a different feeling of joy.
I personally think its absolutely huge in a way like the Dickov goal, had that not happened could the club have done a forest, sheff wed and languish in the doldrums for years and possibly the club would not be what they are today.
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We've been told from the beginning from those well informed that in terms of a decision the earlier it is, the likelihood of a better outcome for City. With it now being a kick in the arse off October, I'm not sure when that "earlier" turns into "late" and if confidence diminishes any.
 
Milesvk said:
I'm used to taking his word as gospel, pretty much any discussion i have had with people on the outside (of bluemoon) is based on what he has said on various podcasts.

Just something as a side note and could be seen as another "soft signal". With the arsenal CEO and spurs chairman leaving suddenly, this has set our little minds going and trying to link it to 115. Ian cheesman interviewed a Labour MP when the white paper of the football regulator come out, the MP stated then that the red cartel had far too much influence in the running of the prem league, they were his words.
Could there something sizemic in the background be going on. Could this 115 case opened up a massive can of worms.
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I never take anyone's word as gospel. Especially these days. I take everyone's view on board and come to my own conclusions. Often wrongly, but at least they are my own work :)

Clearly more weight is given to people who know what they are talking about. I am just not sure, when it comes to timing and what is going on behind the scenes, if anything at all, that anyone knows anything apart from, say, ten people on the planet who aren't going to spill the beans. It's all just noise, so my advice is to be patient and take time to understand the nuance when the decision is finally released.
 
ayrshire_blue said:
We've been told from the beginning from those well informed that in terms of a decision the earlier it is, the likelihood of a better outcome for City. With it now being a kick in the arse off October, I'm not sure when that "earlier" turns into "late" and if confidence diminishes any.
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Not for me. There isn't a snowflake's chance in hell that the serious charges are proven, so if it takes much longer than expected (however long that may be) it only means, to me, that something is going on that we don't know about. If we are at that stage yet, I have no idea, but I would guess we are getting there.
 
ayrshire_blue said:
We've been told from the beginning from those well informed that in terms of a decision the earlier it is, the likelihood of a better outcome for City. With it now being a kick in the arse off October, I'm not sure when that "earlier" turns into "late" and if confidence diminishes any.
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But how well informed are those we consider well informed?

I'm not downplaying anyone's credentials or knowledge of the legal/arbitration process. However, when it comes to our case, it seems as if no-one has a clue what is going on. The whole thing is shrouded in secrecy. Which can be read into or interpreted in a million different ways, as can the departure of certain executives from certain clubs.

Our confidence can only be determined by how well we trust and back our own club to have done the right thing in the first place, and to also fight their corner against what is undoubtedly a targeted and malicious smear campaign.
 
Same here, the only delays I could imagine were if we were majorly guilty of the heavier charges which I dont think is the case. So that leaves something else that has held things up because it seems to be becoming an extraordinary amount of time (if the legal and expert guys on here are anything to go by) for this to be resolved.
 
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