PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

[halfcenturyup]

Interesting that all of the implications appear to relate to us being found to have breached the rules

Yes. A little gratuitous. Nothing at all about the standard of proof and how difficult it will be for the PL to meet it but 1,000 words on the implications if the allegations are proven.

Interesting that he specifically says there may be a connection between the APT and the 115 cases.

Also interesting that he didn't mention at all about this being an award on liability only.

He either knows something or, more likely, he doesn't know anything.

Also why do all lawyers look like complete cunts. Present company excepted, of course.

 

[cheekybids]

That's nonsense, they would still have to prove we broke the rules in each and every year. Your notion potentially prejudices City by saying if they did it in year "a" that proves they did it in years "b, c, d".

It’s not nonsense they could prove the charges from 2009 & then charge us again for 2010 & so on.

 

[Eric Hitchmough]

Exactly - that was one of the points I was making in my post.

I’d expect them to say nothing, and come out with some bland, anodyne statement about waiting for the verdict before passing comment.

They didn’t do this.

Did you tell them you’re a Blue?

 

[CC1]

If you genuinely think I have any interest in naming anyone, you’re wasting your time.

I couldn’t give a fuck if some bloke on the internet believes me or not because I haven’t provided names.

Take it or leave it - that’s up to you - but you shouting about it because it doesn’t fit the prevailing narrative isn’t going to make it any less true.

Not shouting mate. Just wonder why you’re protecting such a low life. There aren’t many senior people in PL. Wonder if any of them read this forum?

 

[Kazzydeyna]

I don’t post this lightly, but having spent the last few days with a couple of people in very senior positions at the PL - they are certainly feeling very confident in their position.

You’d expect that, to a point - and clearly this would only be of note or concern if we are to assume either the result has landed with both City and the PL already ahead of publication, and they are therefore reflecting an informed view - or if, given its imminence, the relevant parties have an early impression of the broad direction the ruling is going to take.

On this - it’s worth reiterating that @slbsn has been pretty clear that he has been told, as of close of play on Friday, neither party had received the result - so I’m hoping he’s right on that, as in that context the views relayed to me could simply be evidence of a general level of bravado/confidence/arrogance on behalf of the PL ahead of publication, and not indicative of any specific knowledge.

It’s also worth saying that I don’t know these people well, so whilst certain comments definitely felt more indiscreet than others - they could also simply be holding an agreed/mandated company line or corporate position on the charges which don’t indicate anything of substance either way.

But I find this unlikely, as I’d expect the company line would be to say nothing - and to hold that they are waiting for the panel to arrive at its judgement before making any substantive comments on the situation.

That said, they were definitely very bullish in tone, and dismissed any view that City’s position on the charges held any credibility whatsoever.

So, not casting any aspersions here, but couple of questions:

- In what capacity were you hanging around with these people? In a lawyerly setting? A social setting?
- How well do you know them? And them, you? (Personal friends/ling term acquaintances/ met for the first time recently etc)
- Wothout giving their names obviously, what is their capacity regarding the PL? Are they club execs? PL employees?

And lastly, what exactly did they say or do to intimate their confidence that City’s position on the charges held no credibility whatsoever?

 

[cheekybids]

Wtf is a co-head?

Possibly a typo….

 

[Didsbury Dave]

The Brittle Bullishness on here is comical.

When someone from City is rumoured to make a positive noise/hint/soft signal everyone is jumping for joy.

When soeone from the Premier League does the same they get jumped on and called all kinds of names.

 

[Didsbury Dave]

Not shouting mate. Just wonder why you’re protecting such a low life. There aren’t many senior people in PL. Wonder if any of them read this forum?

He's reporting something on a forum in good faith which is what we are all deperate for. That's not "Protecting low life". Just because people don't like what the implications are there's no need for people to attack him.

 

[CC1]

The Brittle Bullishness on here is comical.

When someone from City is rumoured to make a positive noise/hint/soft signal everyone is jumping for joy.

When soeone from the Premier League does the same they get jumped on and called all kinds of names.

That’s not true but if someone thinks they can come on here & say they’ve been told by senior people from PL that they’re confident they’ve won the biggest case in football history, they must be very naive if they think they wouldn’t be asked for more information on the leaks.

 

[Nicholas van Whatsisface]

Not shouting mate. Just wonder why you’re protecting such a low life. There aren’t many senior people in PL. Wonder if any of them read this forum?

I’m not protecting them - I’m protecting me.

The more detail I provide, the easier it would be for anyone who’s interested to trace the conversations - which is not something I’m looking to encourage.

I’ve shared what I feel comfortable with sharing.

I know it’s not a complete picture, and as a consequence you may choose not to believe it - but I’m not sharing names/context, etc for a reason.

 

[waspish]

The Brittle Bullishness on here is comical.

When someone from City is rumoured to make a positive noise/hint/soft signal everyone is jumping for joy.

When soeone from the Premier League does the same they get jumped on and called all kinds of names.

Been reading the same shit for ages it’s all bullshit no one knows anything, till it released..

 

[CC1]

He's reporting something on a forum in good faith which is what we are all deperate for. That's not "Protecting low life". Just because people don't like what the implications are there's no need for people to attack him.

I’ve addressed this in another post but to save you searching, I repeat


That’s not true but if someone thinks they can come on here & say they’ve been told by senior people from PL that they’re confident they’ve won the biggest case in football history, they must be very naive if they think they wouldn’t be asked for more information on the leaks.

 

[ClaytonKev]

I’m not protecting them - I’m protecting me.

The more detail I provide, the easier it would be for anyone who’s interested to trace the conversations - which is not something I’m looking to encourage.

I’ve shared what I feel comfortable with sharing.

I know it’s not a complete picture, and as a consequence you may choose not to believe it - but I’m not sharing names/context, etc for a reason.

But we already have your name, Mr Whatsisface. So you may as well tell all!!

 

[Gorton_Tubster]

If you genuinely think I have any interest in naming anyone, you’re wasting your time.

I couldn’t give a fuck if some bloke on the internet believes me or not because I haven’t provided names.

Take it or leave it - that’s up to you - but you shouting about it because it doesn’t fit the prevailing narrative isn’t going to make it any less true.

Don't name them. But what level are they and what context. I mean you could have been giving it large how City are innocent....

I mean it's next to no info (that you could give tbh) You getting popular though

 

[mancboy]

The Brittle Bullishness on here is comical.

When someone from City is rumoured to make a positive noise/hint/soft signal everyone is jumping for joy.

When soeone from the Premier League does the same they get jumped on and called all kinds of names.

And why do you think that is mate. Citys owners have come in and done everything they said they were going to do, they have been roundly mocked by the press, by the other cartels managers, fans etc and continued to build a world class outfit which is the envy of many and something most clubs seek to replicate even to the point of appointing our executives and copying our ideas. The PL on the other hand have presided over fuck up after fuck up under the behest of a person that was fourth choice for the job and been told by a parliamentary committee that it would seem he doesnt know what he is doing, not to mention implementing illegal rules and going over clubs for spurious charges that have been roundly thrown out while circumventing the rules for other clubs.

Ask yourself one which one would you trust a signal from?

 

[Didsbury Dave]

I’ve addressed this in another post but to save you searching, I repeat


That’s not true but if someone thinks they can come on here & say they’ve been told by senior people from PL that they’re confident they’ve won the biggest case in football history, they must be very naive if they think they wouldn’t be asked for more information on the leaks.

Of course, and I'm not syaing his info is any more significant than anyone elses, but I'm just saying let's not shoot the messenger here. He doesn't need to name people on here and compromise himself.

Let's remember how much ultimately came of the million other insider rumours we've had on this thread.

 

[Kazzydeyna]

I’m not protecting them - I’m protecting me.

The more detail I provide, the easier it would be for anyone who’s interested to trace the conversations - which is not something I’m looking to encourage.

I’ve shared what I feel comfortable with sharing.

I know it’s not a complete picture, and as a consequence you may choose not to believe it - but I’m not sharing names/context, etc for a reason.

So, not casting any aspersions here, but couple of questions:

- In what capacity were you hanging around with these people? In a lawyerly setting? A social setting?
- How well do you know them? And them, you? (Personal friends/ling term acquaintances/ met for the first time recently etc)
- Wothout giving their names obviously, what is their capacity regarding the PL? Are they club execs? PL employees?

And lastly, what exactly did they say or do to intimate their confidence that City’s position on the charges held no credibility whatsoever


It is entirely possible to answer all these genuine questions without giving any clues as to who you or they are, should you choose to do so.
You were confident enough to post your post earlier, so how about posting your answers to these questions?

 

[mancboy]

Did the PL actually offer City a deal though?

There’s absolutely no credible evidence to suggest they did - or at least not that I’ve ever seen.

Your second point is right though, and I did reflect that in my post.

They come across as a colossally arrogant and entitled organisation, so then being overconfident based on nothing more than their own lofty opinions of themselves would be entirely consistent with all that bluster and bravado.

Okay lets say there was no deal, if city were certain that the pl had them bang to rights why would they not try and broker a deal with the pl, we are talking about world class businessman here who are pragmatic and smart and will do what is in their best interests, we arent talking about chancers here. IF the evidence was there do you not think at least one of the co conspirators would have brokered something to save their own skin as we arent talking about a slap on the wrist here, we are talking jail time for criminal offences.

 

[adrianr]

The Brittle Bullishness on here is comical.

When someone from City is rumoured to make a positive noise/hint/soft signal everyone is jumping for joy.

When soeone from the Premier League does the same they get jumped on and called all kinds of names.

Soft signals you say...

 

[CC1]

I’m not protecting them - I’m protecting me.

The more detail I provide, the easier it would be for anyone who’s interested to trace the conversations - which is not something I’m looking to encourage.

I’ve shared what I feel comfortable with sharing.

I know it’s not a complete picture, and as a consequence you may choose not to believe it - but I’m not sharing names/context, etc for a reason.

They might read this site?