The Labour Government

[hilts]

I’m tired of all the media hype over Reeves and of politicians who know full well once elected to parliament they have to be whiter than white.
It’s not difficult to double check your paperwork and find your up to date and everything is in order.

Moving into a prime location number 11 Downing Street rents her Dulwich home for £3,200 a month. and fails to fill in the appropriate paperwork.

It reflects on her position as Chancellor of the Exchequer and taking care of the public purse who else can be “trusted” to replace her

You should always leave a paper or email trace nowadays, to not do so is either dishonesty or stupidity. I'm not sure we want the Chancellor to have either of those traits.

 

[threespires]

Surely Reform haven't proven one way or another whether they'll honour their various policy commitments?

I don't dispute there's every possibility they won't honour their commitments and they'll turn out to be just as damaging to the UK as the status Quo we've had in place for so long now.

I think the easiest way to look at what is likely to happen with Reform in power is by looking west to Trump's America. The playbook is very similar and the networks operating behind the scenes suggest very close ties.

Forget individual policies, I think the defining question for anyone thinking of voting Reform out of frustration with the two main parties is do you want to live under a version of Trumpism because that's what you'll get. With one key difference...

The main difference is that we don't have the critical mass and economic heft and resilience to survive some of the things going on over there. We'll be put to the sword much quicker than the US ever would be.

 

[stonerblue]

Tories must be digging into her affairs very deeply to uncover this (and it was the letting agents fault) Shame they dont pay as much attention when their mates do it.

Daily Mail.

 

[hilts]

I think the easiest way to look at what is likely to happen with Reform in power is by looking west to Trump's America. The playbook is very similar and the networks operating behind the scenes suggest very close ties.

Forget individual policies, I think the defining question for anyone thinking of voting Reform out of frustration with the two main parties is do you want to live under a version of Trumpism because that's what you'll get. With one key difference...

The main difference is that we don't have the critical mass and economic heft and resilience to survive some of the things going on over there. We'll be put to the sword much quicker than the US ever would be.

Unfortunately Trump is a lot more popular in this country than is comfortable tbh.

 

[threespires]

Unfortunately Trump is a lot more popular in this country than is comfortable tbh.

I think polling shows he's viewed favourably by about 15-17% of people in the UK which would suggest to me that not everyone thinking of voting Reform approves of him. For that group of people one thing they might want to think about is how closely Reform is aligned to that Trumpian approach and also if a UK administration tried to mimic some of the things he's done, are we a 'big' enough country to withstand the impacts if/when it goes wrong?

Voting Reform as a protest isn't a free hit that we can rewind if it doesn't work out. It's pretty much playing russian roulette with most of the chambers loaded..

 

[hilts]

I think polling shows he's viewed favourably by about 15-17% of people in the UK which would suggest to me that not everyone thinking of voting Reform approves of him. For that group of people one thing they might want to think about is how closely Reform is aligned to that Trumpian approach and also if a UK administration tried to mimic some of the things he's done, are we a 'big' enough country to withstand the impacts if/when it goes wrong?

Voting Reform as a protest isn't a free hit that we can rewind if it doesn't work out. It's pretty much playing russian roulette with most of the chambers loaded..

I suppose it depends on what they are protesting about, the country is hugely split and I think people are genuinely struggling to find a suitable party. The polls are mental reform with a big lead and Labour Tories LD and greens in the teens.

I wonder how popular Trump is compared to the other UK party leaders within the UK Whether you see yourself more left or right leaning its hard to pick a side. Im not sure even left or right has as much meaning anymore.

 

[WRicko]

She should have been fired months ago.

A few weeks away from another stinging tax grab, and after months of speculation around much higher taxes on properties and rental income, it now turns out she’s broken the law when renting out her own property.

A few weeks after the housing minister was fired because she claimed not to know the rules around stamp duty. Staggering.

They simply aren’t up to the job.

You can be a good chancellor and not know the specific housing laws of specific council. Do you think the Health Minister knows everything about Transport as well ?

 

[WRicko]

How utterly predictable that the champagne socialists on this thread are trying to minimise and dismiss Rachel from Customer Services actions.

This isn't a trivial oversight under any circumstances and certainly not for someone who holds such an important position.

Her actions were either done with fraudulent intent or else she's so incompetent and irresponsible that she's utterly unfit for her position.

Having said that it will be a shame to see her go, I'm loving seeing this entire Labour cabinet demonstrate time and again how utterly corrupt, self serving and avaricious they all are.

So it’s incompetent to trust your lettings agent to do there job. Would the same apply to your solicitor ? Accountant ? Builder ? Window cleaner ?

 

[threespires]

I suppose it depends on what they are protesting about, the country is hugely split and I think people are genuinely struggling to find a suitable party. The polls are mental reform with a big lead and Labour Tories LD and greens in the teens.

I wonder how popular Trump is compared to the other UK party leaders within the UK Whether you see yourself more left or right leaning its hard to pick a side. Im not sure even left or right has as much meaning anymore.

The (re)rise of populism has certainly shaken things up. Historically populism has been associated with the right/highly conservative policies that ultimately end up benefitting the hyper rich but no one else. What you've got interestingly in the UK now is a party adopting something of a populist approach but from a progressive perspective and making it explicit that they will seek to rebalance wealth and equality. Be interesting to see how things play out, it doesn't take a huge leap of the imagination to see Reform and the Greens polling best over the next 12 months.

I think the Conservative party as we previously knew it is probably dead, either through remaining moribund or by becoming Conform. This really leaves the fate of the Labour party as the bigger unknown and I think it'll be a bit longer before that becomes clearer.

 

[Kompany Car]

So it’s incompetent to trust your lettings agent to do there job. Would the same apply to your solicitor ? Accountant ? Builder ? Window cleaner ?

Accountant is not a great example, just saying... You are still held personally liable by HMRC.

 

[Kirkstall Blue]

She didn't fail to complete the paperwork .... the Letting Agents did. Granted she should've followed up to ensure that the correct paperwork was in place ...... but something tells me that with the shit show that Labour have inherited she was distracted.

Let’s be generous her mind was elsewhere.
At first I thought, so what she forgot ! But then l checked it, it costs between £650.00 to £1,650,00 for a license in London. That changes it slightly if it was a flat or HMO it needs
a license

 

[blueinsa]

Let’s be generous her mind was elsewhere.
At first I thought so what she forgot! But then l checked it, it costs between £650.00 to £1,650,00 for a license in London. That changes it slightly if it was a flat or HMO it needs
a license

So elsewhere her story on Wednesday changed completely by Thursday.

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

She’ll be lucky to last the week.

 

[mosssideblue]

She’ll be lucky to last the week.

Nonsense

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

Nonsense

Of course it is. It won’t stop peoples’ hyperbole though, will it?

 

[Kirkstall Blue]

It was a desperate search in the dustbin from the Daily Mail and the outraged sheep all piled on as if it was a Watergate moment, shows how pathetic it all is nowadays.

We were digging in the bin for the Conservative Party, it only follows we dig deeper for the next occupants of Downing Street. It’s our money after all avoid paying for a licence or forget to pay and the price goes up for the other license payers.

The PM has written her a letter resolving the matter it is pathetic until you realise how much a license costs

 

[Brewster's millions]

You can be a good chancellor and not know the specific housing laws of specific council. Do you think the Health Minister knows everything about Transport as well ?

That’s an irrelevance.

She told one story on Wednesday, that she was simply unaware of the requirement, and by yesterday afternoon the story changed to the complete opposite.

Given that the first story was conveyed in an official letter to the PM and his ethics advisor, do you not think Reeves should have ascertained the facts of the matter before making such a declaration?

Would a truly competent professional person in Reeves’ position be expected to make such an amateurish mistake, given the level of scrutiny placed on them? I think not.

 

[metalblue]

I’m tired of all the media hype over Reeves and of politicians who know full well once elected to parliament they have to be whiter than white.
It’s not difficult to double check your paperwork and find your up to date and everything is in order.

Moving into a prime location number 11 Downing Street rents her Dulwich home for £3,200 a month. and fails to fill in the appropriate paperwork.

It reflects on her position as Chancellor of the Exchequer and taking care of the public purse who else can be “trusted” to replace her

I think this is the general issue, it’s chipping away at the credibility of this government. Once they row back on their manifesto commitments in the budget they’ll have none left. Now once the rubicon of tax rises has been crossed she may decide to keep increasing taxes in future budgets to become more socialist in nature to win back Labour voters who have been lured in to reform’s sphere.

 

[metalblue]

The status quo might be shit but it's still better than Reform so unless someone comes along that's better than the status quo then I'm all for keeping Reform out - if that's an unlikely Lab/Con coalition or voting Lib Dem/Green then so be it. Personally, I'd like to see a government where the Lib Dems and the Greens have a say as well because they can both can bring something useful to the table and they can help keep the other 2 main parties in check, but Reform can go and get fucked. You think it's shit now but I guarantee that if Reform got in then it would be a damn sight shitter.

Greens are as dangerous for this country as reform.

 

[Gray]

She didn't fail to complete the paperwork .... the Letting Agents did. Granted she should've followed up to ensure that the correct paperwork was in place ...... but something tells me that with the shit show that Labour have inherited she was distracted.

She was told what it would cost somewhere round about £900, did she not wonder why that sum had not been taken from any of their bank accounts. Perhaps she is just not very good at financial matters.