Keir Starmer

[CWAC blue]

Legally proroguing parliament.

Unless it can be evidenced that it is for political reasons as shown in 2019 at Supreme Court.

 

[meltonblue]

I remember in the '70's we used to criticise some European countries because of their water quality. People needing to buy bottled water for drinking was ridiculous, we said. If you go abroad on holiday don't drink the water, we said. Don't have ice in your drink, we said.
Nowadays in England we can't rely on tap water anymore except for maybe brushing our teeth with, or boiling it for a cup of tea.

What a state this country is in, 50 years down the line.

Is this right? I would have thought given we moved away from lead piping it’s a lot safer now.

The state of our rivers id agree with!

 

[True_Blue69]

Unfortunately the quality of tap water in many parts of the UK is not good. Thats been proven by scientists. I didn’t say you couldn't drink it, I said you couldn't rely on it.

What a load of crap.

 

[BillCarlisle]

What a load of crap.

Just quoting the scientists. They probably know better than you or I.

 

[The Future’s Blue!]

Just quoting the scientists. They probably know better than you or I.

Out of interest, which scientists? I’d say our tap water quality is probably the best in the world. Yes, many areas differ with slight taste or hardness of water but I know that it isn’t going to give me a dodgy stomach.

 

[Vic]

Unfortunately the quality of tap water in many parts of the UK is not good. Thats been proven by scientists. I didn’t say you couldn't drink it, I said you couldn't rely on it.

Just keep knocking back the microplastics in bottled water then...

 

[BillCarlisle]

Out of interest, which scientists? I’d say our tap water quality is probably the best in the world. Yes, many areas differ with slight taste or hardness of water but I know that it isn’t going to give me a dodgy stomach.

I'm just going off various articles and TV programmes. There are of course opinions for and against, depending on what we read and watch and what evidence is put forward by the 'experts'. Faced with conflicting views I prefer to err on the side of caution. Each to their own, I suppose.

 

[The Future’s Blue!]

I'm just going off various articles and TV programmes. There are of course opinions for and against, depending on what we read and watch and what evidence is put forward by the 'experts'. Faced with conflicting views I prefer to err on the side of caution. Each to their own, I suppose.

Oh, I have no doubt that the water companies have fucked up our waterways, and there may be the odd outbreak of issues in our purified water delivery systems, but there’s no denying that our tap water is probably the best in the world.

Just interested to where the info came from as it doesn’t align with the real world.

 

[threespires]

but there’s no denying that our tap water is probably the best in the world.

Thought some of the Nordic countries had that reputation? We're definitely up there but I think some other countries have more proactive application of their regulatory standards than us?

 

[The Future’s Blue!]

Thought some of the Nordic countries had that reputation? We're definitely up there but I think some other countries have more proactive application of their regulatory standards than us?

As always, it will depend where you live. Some countries can rely on glaciers, natural springs, etc, but our safety standards ensure for tip-top tap water … said that guy from Peckham Springs ;-)

 

[The Future’s Blue!]

I keep having this niggling question about Starmer, and that’s why he seems to have a real prestige in dealings outside of the country, but a terrible one inside the UK?

Is it perceived, or real?

 

[mosssideblue]

As always, it will depend where you live. Some countries can rely on glaciers, natural springs, etc, but our safety standards ensure for tip-top tap water … said that guy from Peckham Springs ;-)

I have a bottle of Peckham spring every day and I’m ok :)

 

[threespires]

As always, it will depend where you live. Some countries can rely on glaciers, natural springs, etc, but our safety standards ensure for tip-top tap water … said that guy from Peckham Springs ;-)

Adjacent to this, I stood there last night staring at my wrecked thermostatic mixer valve and moaning to the Mrs I wouldn't have to put up with this shit if I still lived in Wythenshawe.

 

[meltonblue]

Just quoting the scientists. They probably know better than you or I.

I don’t think any are suggesting it’s declined though are they?

 

[True_Blue69]

Out of interest, which scientists? I’d say our tap water quality is probably the best in the world. Yes, many areas differ with slight taste or hardness of water but I know that it isn’t going to give me a dodgy stomach.

None, because there aren't any.

 

[Vic]

I've just caught up with last Saturday's Guardian which effectively says that in civil service world Olly Robbins did not overrule the vetting - he was merely the last part of the process and if he gave Mandelson clearance then this meant Mandelson had passed vetting...

 

[CWAC blue]

I've just caught up with last Saturday's Guardian which effectively says that in civil service world Olly Robbins did not overrule the vetting - he was merely the last part of the process and if he gave Mandelson clearance then this meant Mandelson had passed vetting...

To me the biggest question no one will answer is whether the vetting came up with anything materially different from the due diligence already passed of by no. 10 if not can’t see what his problem is, if there are other serious issues raised Starmer is right to be pissed off.

 

[Postman Pep]

Same in here. I remember one of our resident Labour sycophants claiming that they were barely on speaking terms and Petie, despite his best efforts, was being kept at arm's length.

 

[Ban-jani]

I personally see no competent replacement, and with regards to the media driven push for a change in government, the tories or reform with either Badenoch or Farage as a PM offer a dangerous and catastrophic decline for the UK. Reform being the resting place for the proven tory failures looking for an unelected and undeserved second chance in politics.

Those two lightweight cunts were calling for the UK to support the deranged fucker in the White House only a couple of weeks ago !

The country is in catastrophic decline no matter who is in, things have actually got even worse since Starmer took over from Sunak too. We’re a nation in decline generally, each party just has a different way of choosing which part to ruin first.

There’s nobody remotely competent enough to turn the ship away from the iceberg. If Labour have got an ounce of sense, they’ll opt for Burnham who is probably closest in their ranks but they’re moving towards oblivion as a party regardless. They’ll deserve it, as do the Tories, but the alternative options will just accelerate the decline with their fringe ideological lunacy.

The only hope we’ve got long term, as an entire nation, is if we go cap in hand to the EU begging for our full membership back, once the whole thing goes completely tits up.

 

[Postman Pep]

, but the alternative options will just accelerate the decline with their fringe ideological lunacy.

So you accept that the decline is real and pretty much unavoidable and your only problem is 'accelerationism' ... and incompetent managers.

Yet ...

The only hope we’ve got long term, as an entire nation, is if we go cap in hand to the EU begging for our full membership back, once the whole thing goes completely tits up.

Maybe this is the ideological lunacy that needs to ousted to the fringes.