Keir Starmer

hampshireblue said:
But he has form:

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Reform UK leader Nigel Farage breached MPs' rules 17 times by failing to register financial interests totalling £384,000 within the 28-day limit, the parliamentary commissioner for standards has ruled.

Daniel Greenberg said that following an investigation, external he had concluded that the breaches were "inadvertent" and therefore would not be recommending any sanctions for the Clacton MP.

He added that Farage had apologised and had promised to meet the deadline in the future.

The interests that Farage failed to report on time include payments from GB News, Google, X and the Cameo app.
In his reply to the commissioner, Farage said he was "sincerely sorry" for the rule breaches adding that there had been "no malicious intent".

He also said he had been "extremely let down by a very senior member of staff".

During a meeting with the commissioner on 11 December 2025, Farage said he had been "a little bit shocked" by the "gross administrative error".

"You may say, why don't I enter those things myself. Well I don't do computers... so I rely on other people to do those things for me.

"I'm not, I'm afraid, computer literate, which makes me yet more an oddball than perhaps I was before."


That was a report from January of this year. Now, wouldn't you think that if all was above board with the £5m bung, he would have mentioned it at the stage he was being investigated for other stuff ? It has also gone very quiet regarding the Clacton property that his girlfriend "bought" despite her having no income. I wonder who approached who regarding the £5m.

"Hi Chris, Nigel here. I know I'm not an MP or ever will be again but can you give me £5m for my security that the government won't give me becasue I'm no longer involved in politics (according to Tice over the weekend)"

or

"Hi Nigel, Chris here. I'm really worried about your well being so how about me giving you £5m for nothing. I know you're not in politics any more so can't have impact on UK crypto legislation so let me just transfer it to you as a gift.
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Wonder if fucking Burnham declares his financial interests? That would be interesting especially for his partner in crime Neville.
 
Ho Chi Man City said:
“Brilliant Civil Servants” that’s debatable for a large percentage of them.
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I've worked in the Civil Service and am proud to have done so. I worked with many brilliant, hardworking and dedicated colleagues, so you can fuck right off with your Daily Mail cheap shots you ignoramus.
 
Norbert D said:
Labour won a stonking FPTP majority in 2024 so under the fixed term parliament act they still have a mandate for three more years. I think they are getting the big decisions right irrespective of how big a twit you think Starmer is.
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Just an FYI, the Fixed-term Parliaments Act is no longer a thing. It was fully repealed a few years ago. The government still gets 5 years, which I guess was your main point.
 
It could have been 10 said:
There is a massive difference between £100k and £5 million. It's more than just coincidence that the money is being donated by a crypto billionaire and Farage and reform are pushing policies that favours crypto billionaires. Farage is corrupt as fuck. He's a phoney and a fraud. All this man of the people shit.My arse. I've seen pictures of him in his private members club sipping Champaign. He's only seen supping a pint of beer when the cameras and the media are around to fool people into thinking "I'm one of you". What a complete charlatan. He's fooling people at the moment but it won't last.
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Actually there isn’t if they are both illegal
 
mosssideblue said:
Well constructed, well said Jess
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She's one of the few politicians with real cojones to get things done.

Watching a glacier move, and it is moving, feels like it is not moving without a long-term before and after picture for comparison, it just looks like it isn't moving.
After five years, nobody wants to think back too hard - if the country looks same ol' same ol' in key areas, then the government's time is up.
Changing the paintwork on the trains, and the signs on the steelworks gates isn't good enough.
Still pumping sewage into rivers, lakes and seas, without any significant consequence, isn't good enough.
Continuing to suck up to Trump and his Israeli allies/masters isn't good enough.
More refreshed strategies and aims are not going to cut the mustard.

Stop pretending you're making a closing argument in court at the end of a long case
Act now in the areas that matter to most people.
Kick ass.
Start delivering now.
 
We've got Guardiola said:
Less than 15% of the country voted for Labour in 2024. They won a majority in terms of FPTP but they didn't win anything in terms of votes, it's definitely not an ironclad mandate. They've now just lost a significant number of councils which just reflects where this is going to go.

Corbyn got 3m more votes in 2017 but he won 150 less seats. In 2024 Reform got nearly half as many votes as Labour and they got 5 seats versus Labour's 411, that's insane.

What I'm trying to say is I think Starmer and Labour could show their arses in Parliament or promise to make everybody a millionaire and the poll ratings still wouldn't really change now or ever. The amount of people who will vote for them was few and now it's likely to be even fewer and that's not a mandate.
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Agree with pretty much everything you say, much as I have complete disdain for Reform and what it pretends to stand for, spoiler alert, it doesn’t give a shit about the UK or poor whites or bringing back manufacturing jobs etc it’s yet another populist power grab by slippery chancers, BUT, the fact they got five seats for five million votes is scandalous.

FPTP has had its day and needs replacing.
 
Ban-jani said:
There’s actually no precedent for resigning because of shitty local election results, Thatcher didn’t, May didn’t, even Blair had some at one point.

For me, he should have resigned over Mandelson, that was a disgrace.
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Back in the real world, Mandy is a slippery chancer and Trump is a vile crook, a perfect match. Any normy would be chewed up and spat out by Trump. For all the pearl clutching that was one of Starmer’s better appointments.
 
Chippy_boy said:
I've a question and an observation.

First the observation: The blonde Labour minister Baroness x (sorry don't know her surname) came and talked to the BBC who were waiting outside No 10 and said unequivocally that *all* of the cabinet members were fully supportive of Starmer. On face value, she appears to have just lied on camera, given that Jess Philips has resigned.

Now the question? Why has Mahmood not been fired? Is it OK to call for your boss to resign and just carry on in your own job? WTF is Starmer thinking??
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She was Starmer's political secretary as he climbed to power. Very close and very loyal.
Apparently the PM flatly refused to discuss his position in open cabinet, but said he'd speak to individuals one-to-one - when the cabinet ended, Streeting asked for a meeting and Starmer refused. Presumably why Streeting left No10 with a face like a slapped arse.

[Fascinating - the amount of posts about Farage (I'm not a fan either) but this IS the Kier Starmer thread].
 
Rory Bluelow said:
She was Starmer's political secretary as he climbed to power. Very close and very loyal.
Apparently the PM flatly refused to discuss his position in open cabinet, but said he'd speak to individuals one-to-one - when the cabinet ended, Streeting asked for a meeting and Starmer refused. Presumably why Streeting left No10 with a face like a slapped arse.

[Fascinating - the amount of posts about Farage (I'm not a fan either) but this IS the Kier Starmer thread].
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Wrong, it’s the Keir Starmer thread, at least spell his name right.
 
Rory Bluelow said:
She was Starmer's political secretary as he climbed to power. Very close and very loyal.
Apparently the PM flatly refused to discuss his position in open cabinet, but said he'd speak to individuals one-to-one - when the cabinet ended, Streeting asked for a meeting and Starmer refused. Presumably why Streeting left No10 with a face like a slapped arse.

[Fascinating - the amount of posts about Farage (I'm not a fan either) but this IS the Kier Starmer thread].
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Where is your evidence/source to corroborate that? Please don’t say Sky news
 
Chippy_boy said:
Who is Minford?

Sorry mate I'm just not up for an argument. No-one ever changes their mind on here under any circumstances. We just post opinions and others contradict them. Rinse and repeat.
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The guy in the video who was ok with killing the car industry for Brexit
 
Chippy_boy said:
I agree it's not getting the air time you might imagine, given the scale of it. However, Googling (since I knew little of the detail), I find that the £5m donation was received before Farage was an MP or had even decided to run. More importantly that personal gifts do not need to be declared and that is what Farage is claiming.

The jury is out on whether that response is reasonable or acceptable. It may not be.

But the reason I chose to quote you was I like you would have thought it's curtains for Farage if the Parliamentary Standards Commissioner find against him. But apparently the range of sanctions are:

  • A formal reprimand or censure on the parliamentary record
  • A suspension from the Commons for a defined period
  • A fine from the Electoral Commission

None of these automatically disqualify someone from becoming PM. There is no legal mechanism that bars an MP found to have breached the register of interests from leading a party or serving as PM.

As I now understand it, there's a legal gap where breaking parliamentary rules are not necessarily illegal, specifically that the legal obligation to declare only applies to sitting MPs, which Farage was not.

BUT... This is one hell of a distraction from the STARMER discussion thread isn't it!
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I've started a Farridge one to keep you happy!!
 
Rory Bluelow said:
She was Starmer's political secretary as he climbed to power. Very close and very loyal.
Apparently the PM flatly refused to discuss his position in open cabinet, but said he'd speak to individuals one-to-one - when the cabinet ended, Streeting asked for a meeting and Starmer refused. Presumably why Streeting left No10 with a face like a slapped arse.

[Fascinating - the amount of posts about Farage (I'm not a fan either) but this IS the Kier Starmer thread].
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He lives rent free in some people’s head doesn’t he.
 
Chippy_boy said:
Who is Minford?

Sorry mate I'm just not up for an argument. No-one ever changes their mind on here under any circumstances. We just post opinions and others contradict them. Rinse and repeat.
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Now I know you're taking the piss. You claimed a while ago that you actively canvassed against Brexit. If that is the case there is no way you wouldn't know who Patrick Minford is. He was about the only "economist" who was for us leaving quoting a 6.8% rise in GDP as a result of leaving.
 
Norbert D said:
Back in the real world, Mandy is a slippery chancer and Trump is a vile crook, a perfect match. Any normy would be chewed up and spat out by Trump. For all the pearl clutching that was one of Starmer’s better appointments.
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A friend and ally of the most prolific international paedophile of our generation, that failed security vetting, which the PM lied to Parliament over, oh and someone Mandelson had previously leaked state secrets to, was one of Starmer’s better appointments?

Fuck me.
 
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