Media bias against City

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crazyg said:
I also think you should re-examine your previous comment regarding him not scoring for City. Do you just like to be controversial?
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Ok then for the first team in a competitive game. It is not beyond the realms of possibility the Telegraph does not have a picture of Denayer scoring for the EDS, Friendlies etc. The point is,in my opinion, there was nothing remotely wrong with the picture. If you think differently our opinions are so extreme its pointless discussing. However you are more than entitled to that view.
 
bluesoup said:
I'm refusing to click on articles from outlets that have got on my banned list. I will take the word of fellow posters instead that the picture could have been better chosen.
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That is fair enough. If you feel that strongly that is the correct course of action. If I agreed I would take similar action.

In my opinion it was quite a decent picture with a positive write up.

Most of the pictures were just standard pictures but if memory serves me correct, it was a few hours ago I looked at it, it appeared to show Rolando Aaarons at Newcastle celebrating a goal.
 
franksinatra said:
That is fair enough. If you feel that strongly that is the correct course of action. If I agreed I would take similar action.

In my opinion it was quite a decent picture with a positive write up.
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Okay, so picture may not have been as bad as initially described and thanks for your opinion.

Still not clicking though! ;-) and maybe other posters asking us to click media outlets to see what they've just seen, should re-think about posting links or asking us to do so.
 
bluesoup said:
Okay, so picture may not have been as bad as initially described and thanks for your opinion.

Still not clicking though! ;-) and maybe other posters asking us to click media outlets to see what they've just seen, should re-think about posting links or asking us to do so.
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Rather than not as bad as initially described I actually thought it was a really well timed action shot during a game of football, hence asking why it could be construed in any way negatively.

Yes mate you are correct to resist the temptation. My stance has always been some write negatively about us, some do not but I do not see any collusion or agenda to discredit the club.

As an example I do not listen to talk sport as after a few occassions I realised its whole strategy was to be provoking and extreme to encourage people to call in etc. So why people continue to listen and then get upset by the content is a mystery. It is like moths to the flame. If anything the listening figures and those calling in challenging the nonsense vindicates their strategy.
 
Frank, we're not talking about individual journalists. We're talking about the media in general. Asking guests on sky sports, "who do you think will win the title, arsenal or Chelsea " when we've either won it or been runners up for the last 4 seasons is a bit silly isn't it?
Or running a poll on who is the biggest snake, Sterling or delph.
Or asking who is the most hated player and giving people a choice of 6. One an ex city player, 3 current.
I have to ask you in all honesty, do you know of any other club that receives this kind of shit for so long?
 
franksinatra said:
Ok then for the first team in a competitive game. It is not beyond the realms of possibility the Telegraph does not have a picture of Denayer scoring for the EDS, Friendlies etc. The point is,in my opinion, there was nothing remotely wrong with the picture. If you think differently our opinions are so extreme its pointless discussing. However you are more than entitled to that view.
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It is not often that I post on this thread, as there are several posters on here whose views are so diametrically opposed I just shake my head at the "quality" of the points debated.

I am at a loss to understand your comment that my opinion is "so extreme that it is pointless discussing", when I merely pointed out that you had erred in saying that Sterling had not scored for City. It is obvious that you never read my comment, as it had nothing to do with the picture. What I think about the picture is irrelevant to my comment. However, it is clear that any attempt to disagree with you on any point brings out comments that the other person's view is extreme and not worth discussing.

Feel free to carry on in this manner. You have the right to do so - this is not RAWK.
 
2sheikhs said:
Frank, we're not talking about individual journalists. We're talking about the media in general. Asking guests on sky sports, "who do you think will win the title, arsenal or Chelsea " when we've either won it or been runners up for the last 4 seasons is a bit silly isn't it?
Or running a poll on who is the biggest snake, Sterling or delph.
Or asking who is the most hated player and giving people a choice of 6. One an ex city player, 3 current.
I have to ask you in all honesty, do you know of any other club that receives this kind of shit for so long?
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Hi 2sheiks,

It is a tough one pal to answer as I predominantly follow city news and am more knowledgeable about this subject than other clubs. I would probably not notice or be as sensitive to criticism of another club and it could be argued probably 'buy' the nonsense written about other clubs.

What I would say is I think LVG got heavily criticised last year as did Brendan Rogers. More so than Pellers ever has. So the argument the 'media darling' do not get criticised I think is not true.

Furthermore I often read fans making a direct comparison with United in instances. Examples spring to mind is they never included Di Marias wages in the package like they did with Sterling or there was never articles about Zaha not getting a chance at United. In both instances there was.

Then the flip side to all that is Aguero getting over looked for awards. The fallout from Sterling etc

Where we are at the moment is the boycott of papers, the cancelling of sky subscriptions and media campaign against Sky a few weeks back where again I was the one dissenting voice who stated there was no evidence of sky involvement. Even boyhood blue, scorer in the five - one andy hinchcliffe is getting criticism for being against us and now denayer being tackled and falling over is posted as an attack on the club.

I dont know about you 2sheiks but I come on here each day, men website, soccernet to find out the latest on city and football. Within this thread pretty much anything with a possible negative undertone is posted. Could that also be possibly skewing peoples views?
 
Rodgers only gets criticism because a lot of Liverpool fans can see him for what he is. A lot of the press and pundits are Liverpool fans or ex players.
I too only look for articles about City but can also see headlines about other clubs.
We are in a situation now where a 20 year old is being made into a hate figure.
If you constantly see City players being put in polls to be held up for ridicule and ignored for anything noteworthy, that isn't a possible skewed vision, it's a fact laid out before you with no ambiguity.
 
franksinatra said:
Rather than not as bad as initially described I actually thought it was a really well timed action shot during a game of football, hence asking why it could be construed in any way negatively.

Yes mate you are correct to resist the temptation. My stance has always been some write negatively about us, some do not but I do not see any collusion or agenda to discredit the club.

As an example I do not listen to talk sport as after a few occassions I realised its whole strategy was to be provoking and extreme to encourage people to call in etc. So why people continue to listen and then get upset by the content is a mystery. It is like moths to the flame. If anything the listening figures and those calling in challenging the nonsense vindicates their strategy.
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I doubt an agenda behaviour too but, as my previous posts have alluded to... I'm fed up with our club taking a measured and conservative approach to what we get portrayed as. I too scout the Internet for a story about city and have the intelligence to know that a few are okay, some are balanced and the rest are just negative click bait.

I was alright with sifting through the crap for a pearl of an article but, this month the tone has shifted towards 'hatred of all things city' examples are; sterling and his family receiving death threats, players in a poll of hatred, our youngsters undervalued, spending exaggerated, orchestrated booing in Australia and orchestrated booing during a England game.

So that's why I'm sceptical with all forms of links posted in a thread with a message saying 'sorry if posted but, have a look at this' and miffed that I can't even filter them anymore via blue moon (copyright crap).
 
crazyg said:
It is not often that I post on this thread, as there are several posters on here whose views are so diametrically opposed I just shake my head at the "quality" of the points debated.

I am at a loss to understand your comment that my opinion is "so extreme that it is pointless discussing", when I merely pointed out that you had erred in saying that Sterling had not scored for City. It is obvious that you never read my comment, as it had nothing to do with the picture. What I think about the picture is irrelevant to my comment. However, it is clear that any attempt to disagree with you on any point brings out comments that the other person's view is extreme and not worth discussing.

Feel free to carry on in this manner. You have the right to do so - this is not RAWK.
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No you are correct I do not know what your view is about the picture because even though the exchange was about the picture your main point was to pick me up on a technicality about whether Denayer had scored for City or not. Your second point was to provokingly ask 'Do I just like to be controversial? I never stated your opinion was extreme, that is why I started the sentence with 'if you think' but presumed your reference about being controversial was my assertion there was nothing wrong with the picture.
 
2sheikhs said:
Rodgers only gets criticism because a lot of Liverpool fans can see him for what he is. A lot of the press and pundits are Liverpool fans or ex players.
I too only look for articles about City but can also see headlines about other clubs.
We are in a situation now where a 20 year old is being made into a hate figure.
If you constantly see City players being put in polls to be held up for ridicule and ignored for anything noteworthy, that isn't a possible skewed vision, it's a fact laid out before you with no ambiguity.
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No offence 2Sheiks but when other clubs are criticised it is always with the caveat it is for this reason or that. A lot of City fans do not rate Pellers so if he gets slagged off next year will it be fair game because a lot of city fans do not rate him? Or will it be part of an agenda/media bias?

The sterling one is a tough one. He has been a figure of hate, for some, when he was still at Liverpool however not unsurprisingly it has been exacerbated once he has transferred to us. Arguably the level of hatred would have been worse if he had set foot in Old Trafford instead. The other thing I would say is City have not been really criticised for the way they conducted the transfer or how they behaved in negotiation. The fee gets mentioned obviously but the criticism is personal o the player not the club.

I am not sure I have seen City players being constantly put up in polls either. You have given one example and particularly in Delphs case that circus, and the accompanying criticism would have been avoided if he had signed in the first instance instead of declaring his loyalty to Villa.

With regards the noteworthy stuff we did receive a lot of positive press for our academy and once we start integrating the those players who have benefitted from it into the first team squad the not producing young players bone we often get hit with should be taken away. Also we always get listed as having the cheapest season tickets £299 even though we know in previous years the actual number of value cards is few and far between. Again I am playing deveils advocate with you a bit I think there are other elements we deserve more praise. Notably the way both Pellers and Mancini avoid criticising the ref constantly. The behaviour of our players such as Komps, Aguero, Silva etc. The way the club, players and last two managers have conducted themselves should be a benchmark for all other clubs.
 
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bluesoup said:
I doubt an agenda behaviour too but, as my previous posts have alluded to... I'm fed up with our club taking a measured and conservative approach to what we get portrayed as. I too scout the Internet for a story about city and have the intelligence to know that a few are okay, some are balanced and the rest are just negative click bait.

I was alright with sifting through the crap for a pearl of an article but, this month the tone has shifted towards 'hatred of all things city' examples are; sterling and his family receiving death threats, players in a poll of hatred, our youngsters undervalued, spending exaggerated, orchestrated booing in Australia and orchestrated booing during a England game.

So that's why I'm sceptical with all forms of links posted in a thread with a message saying 'sorry if posted but, have a look at this' and miffed that I can't even filter them anymore via blue moon (copyright crap).
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It has certainly been a tough month Blue Soup media wise but again as I highlighted to 2sheiks a lot of it has not been directed at the club but at the two individuals involved. Naturally though as our players we feel protective towards them. One thing I would say about Sterling If anyone can handle it will be him. He appears a very strong willed and confident person in his abilities and the direction he has chosen to take.

Personally, and it not always works, I tend to read the Independent as the articles seem more fact based than the celebrity-driven nonsense and articles being based on the latest mutterings of Mourinho and his ilk.
 
Just from this summer Its noticeable that a lot of people despise City, eg: Media (SKY SPORTS) Pundits such as Carragher and Sounes. TBH Gary Neville is probably the less bias out of them all.
Everyone watches SKY SPORTS NEWS and stupid pundits are bringing our club rep down and armchair fans that live in some other countrys think they know everything about football giving City abuse on Twitter. I always try my best in defending my club in the comments but I always seemed to get swarmed by other clubs fans.
We need to start going on these polls and voting for our players and when we see a tweet we need to slate them and give them It back.
 
The ridiculous Sterling fee was never the issue, it was the ridiculous over reaction of Liverpool luvvies. End of.
 
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