De Bruyne?

Proy said:
Ah fuck me, it's never easy is it?

It makes you wonder what the negotiations were for, were we trying to find a way to make sure certain people didn't behave like cunts?

I think we have established that Kevin wants to come here. Of that I'm confident. We wouldn't negotiate and then bid without that certainty.

This is Wolfsburg fighting for every last penny now, although again I'd have have thought that might have been agreed off the record whilst talking. It would seem not.

Again, I come back to, what have we actually been negotiating? For 2 whole months? His waist size?

Such longevity in them, would make you think when the bid goes in, we are home and dry.

But it's this hard? Really?

He will be a blue in the end, player power rules, but the fucking soap opera in between really fucks with my head.
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Same question I asked that what exactly where they were they negotiating over 2 or 3 months ago? There seems to be some urgency about this move as we approach the close of this transfer window. My question is why didn't we witness all this drama early enough so that there'd be ample time to get this over the line just in time before September 1st? It makes me ask questions about the ability of those in charge of transfers to close deals. Read an hillarious post one time about Txixi not being able to close a book let alone a transfer deal and I'm beginning to share his sentiments. Never criticized Txixi before but I think he's not doing a good-enough job at the moment. I hope Wolfsburg's playing hard ball is about wanting to get as much reasonable money as possible because if they indeed DON'T want to sell, they hold all the cards. Even if the player drops a transfer request or begins to do a Sterling (sorry I used this terminology), they can just call a crazy amount e.g. £100 million knowing that he still has 4 years or so in his contract. This is not too hard to imagine because these guys can be very very hard to deal with. For now we can only hope that things turn positive but if it doesn't, I'll never look away from two things: one, the fact that Txixi was a slow mole in this one and two, the fact that we lost Pogba in the same window
 
Some right self-entitled and naïve comments made on here. Its as if people here really have a valid view on how to conduct such transactions and if they have a right or even any capability to judge the and critique our management
 
ojeme said:
Same question I asked that what exactly where they were they negotiating over 2 or 3 months ago? There seems to be some urgency about this move as we approach the close of this transfer window. My question is why didn't we witness all this drama early enough so that there'd be ample time to get this over the line just in time before September 1st? It makes me ask questions about the ability of those in charge of transfers to close deals. Read an hillarious post one time about Txixi not being able to close a book let alone a transfer deal and I'm beginning to share his sentiments. Never criticized Txixi before but I think he's not doing a good-enough job at the moment. I hope Wolfsburg's playing hard ball is about wanting to get as much reasonable money as possible because if they indeed DON'T want to sell, they hold all the cards. Even if the player drops a transfer request or begins to do a Sterling (sorry I used this terminology), they can just call a crazy amount e.g. £100 million knowing that he still has 4 years or so in his contract. This is not too hard to imagine because these guys can be very very hard to deal with. For now we can only hope that things turn positive but if it doesn't, I'll never look away from two things: one, the fact that Txixi was a slow mole in this one and two, the fact that we lost Pogba in the same window
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Negotiations are done in private. How do you know what was discussed if anything months back? The press "speculate" and everyone adds their own interpretation.

If a club doesn't want to sell a player then how does that impact on the competence of our officials? You could say we should move n, but there aren't that many players who are obviously better than what we have. You could just buy loads of promising players and hope 1 or 2 work out. That seems to be some clubs' strategy.

A week into the season, I maintain that it's City and only City who have strengthened significantly this Summer. Jovetic and Dzeko were not contributing and their departure allows hungry young players to make an impact. In the Cups last season, the fringe squad layers came in. You'd expect them to be flying with a point to prove, but no they were complacent.
 
ojeme said:
Same question I asked that what exactly where they were they negotiating over 2 or 3 months ago? There seems to be some urgency about this move as we approach the close of this transfer window. My question is why didn't we witness all this drama early enough so that there'd be ample time to get this over the line just in time before September 1st? It makes me ask questions about the ability of those in charge of transfers to close deals. Read an hillarious post one time about Txixi not being able to close a book let alone a transfer deal and I'm beginning to share his sentiments. Never criticized Txixi before but I think he's not doing a good-enough job at the moment. I hope Wolfsburg's playing hard ball is about wanting to get as much reasonable money as possible because if they indeed DON'T want to sell, they hold all the cards. Even if the player drops a transfer request or begins to do a Sterling (sorry I used this terminology), they can just call a crazy amount e.g. £100 million knowing that he still has 4 years or so in his contract. This is not too hard to imagine because these guys can be very very hard to deal with. For now we can only hope that things turn positive but if it doesn't, I'll never look away from two things: one, the fact that Txixi was a slow mole in this one and two, the fact that we lost Pogba in the same window
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Words fail me!
 
Sport Witness has quoted a couple of Belgian papers saying we'll be offering De Bruyne £228k per week on a 6 year contract
 
Seems to be flavour of the month, Rags playing hardball over De Gea, Liverpool being pedantic over Sterling now this tosser up to the same tricks. If they don't want to sell just tell everyone not for sale as Everton have done with Maureen.
 
Rammyblues said:
Seems to be flavour of the month, Rags playing hardball over De Gea, Liverpool being pedantic over Sterling now this tosser up to the same tricks. If they don't want to sell just tell everyone not for sale as Everton have done with Maureen.
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except that Stones will be sold to the chavs, Martinez has already lined up van Dyck to replace him
 
I would imagine much of our negotiations were based around convincing KDB to move to city. Seems to be working out ok, the rest is just games.
 
Rammyblues said:
Seems to be flavour of the month, Rags playing hardball over De Gea, Liverpool being pedantic over Sterling now this tosser up to the same tricks. If they don't want to sell just tell everyone not for sale as Everton have done with Maureen.
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I can't really blame Wolfsburg for not wanting to sell and making it as tough as possible. This is their selling Bale/Suarez moment. He is the sole reason they are in the champions league and he's won them 2 trophies in a year - and this is a club who's barely won anything ever.

They know that no matter what we pay, 45m, 50...70m they can't replace De Bruyne. The best they can do is buy a couple of players that might become as good as him one day.

That's why this is dragging out. They're probably hoping to convince KDB to stay.

But I very much doubt they will, so they'll cave in eventually. Might be in a day, might be in a week.
 
YaYa's Left Peg said:
Words fail me!
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This ultimately is a question of faith. Good vs bad. And I've seen some horrendous examples on this forum over the years of absolute bad faith. Total self deceptive nonsense. Equally, I've seen some wonderfully articulated logical posts based on sound reason.

We can only judge once the window is shut. I don't think its is ludicrous for people to pose questions about a transfer strategy as it unfolds whether this be timing, the targets themselves, positions, fee's, negotiating details emerging (issues of image rights etc), nor do I think its ludicrous for people to say 'hang on a minute - the window closes when it closes, lets see whether our targets are in place come the end of the window before over simplifying Txiki as a catastrophic failure'.

But make no mistake - if we landed all three (add four if you want to classify Delph as a 'top' target although I wouldn't personally) top targets - it has been a phenomenal window and Txiki will come out of this with his reputation further enhanced (in terms of the recruitment aspect of his role)

However, if we only land Sterling as one of three top targets (again plus Delph) - then this is short of what I and I suspect hundreds on here believe Khaldoon referred to in his post season interview and what is perfectly logical to assume would be again far short at CL knock out stage level with this squad.

The debate will then continue.
 
mcfc1632 said:
Some right self-entitled and naïve comments made on here. Its as if people here really have a valid view on how to conduct such transactions and if they have a right or even any capability to judge the and critique our management
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Not heard any of that before.

So only comment on your own profession is that it? I take it you're a transfer negotiator, seeing as you're qualified to formulate your view.

Incidentally, although my view is clearly not valid according to your rules, in this window Txiki and others are doing an extremely good job, however others are entitled to their opinion if it differs from yours.
I also think you'd be surprised what incredibly professional and involved occupations people have on here before you intimate they're hicks incapable of forming an opinion.

I got less angry as I wrote this - just don't like the put downs and high handed suppression of genuinely held views.
 
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domalino said:
I can't really blame Wolfsburg for not wanting to sell and making it as tough as possible. This is their selling Bale/Suarez moment. He is the sole reason they are in the champions league and he's won them 2 trophies in a year - and this is a club who's barely won anything ever.

They know that no matter what we pay, 45m, 50...70m they can't replace De Bruyne. The best they can do is buy a couple of players that might become as good as him one day.

That's why this is dragging out. They're probably hoping to convince KDB to stay.

But I very much doubt they will, so they'll cave in eventually. Might be in a day, might be in a week.
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domalino said:
I can't really blame Wolfsburg for not wanting to sell and making it as tough as possible. This is their selling Bale/Suarez moment. He is the sole reason they are in the champions league and he's won them 2 trophies in a year - and this is a club who's barely won anything ever.

They know that no matter what we pay, 45m, 50...70m they can't replace De Bruyne. The best they can do is buy a couple of players that might become as good as him one day.

That's why this is dragging out. They're probably hoping to convince KDB to stay.

But I very much doubt they will, so they'll cave in eventually. Might be in a day, might be in a week.
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This.
 
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