Lucky Toma
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What they needed was you there to put them right.
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Refugee crisis
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What they needed was you there to put them right.
My thoughts are that these are exceptional circumstances in exceptional times and we need to do something on both fronts. The first thing we really have to do is take care of these poor people however we can easing their burden and processing them into our country and other countries in the world.then we really do need to address the problem or at least genuinely try to so that these people can go home safely to a country that has a fighting chance for peace.
The thoughts of immigration should be put to one side for this particular instance and the world as a whole should make it happen for these poor people.
How about taking care of our own first..
http://www.poverty.ac.uk/report-pov...fits-uk/child-and-adult-poverty-set-rise-2015
Personally i'v omly heard Media/politician types who disagree with him, everyone who's mentioned it to me Today agree with him
I guess we mix in different circles then.
marco
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I wont argue with you that there isn't a problem because there is and we need a better mechanism to deal with that problem and weed out the bad from the innocent.But while we sit it out it's just getting worse for the majority of good people who are caught in the middle.
half of these people have no identification to say who or what they are so finding a better mechanism to assist entry into the UK is out of the question, it has to be sorted out at their end in their country
City Raider
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this government or opposition aren't interested in the poor in this country or any other
whats even sadder is they appear to be representative
whats even sadder is they appear to be representative
trouble is which ones are the 'nice deserving just trying to escape ISIS' refugees.....and which ones are the infiltrating murderous muslim jihadist scum?
You've showed great restraint there, waiting a good ten minutes before mentioning "Muslim jihadist scum". Not like you to play that card.
half of these people have no identification to say who or what they are so finding a better mechanism to assist entry into the UK is out of the question, it has to be sorted out at their end in their country
You've no compassion at all that for no fault of their own people would risk their lives and their childrens lives to escape a war torn country? I'm no liberal hand wringer but even I can see the solution isn't to say to these people go away.
BlueHammer85
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How about taking care of our own first..
http://www.poverty.ac.uk/report-pov...fits-uk/child-and-adult-poverty-set-rise-2015
Genuine question - What defines poverty in this country ?
How many children in this country don't have food to eat or a roof over there head - that to me defines poverty something which I'm sure 99.9% of children in the country do not go through.
IanBishopsHaircut
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My two boys started school today..my youngest in reception and my eldest going into year 1
I posted a pic of them on Facebook in their school uniforms about an hour before those photos broke..broke my heart..welling up just thinking about it
I posted a pic of them on Facebook in their school uniforms about an hour before those photos broke..broke my heart..welling up just thinking about it
You've no compassion at all that for no fault of their own people would risk their lives and their childrens lives to escape a war torn country? I'm no liberal hand wringer but even I can see the solution isn't to say to these people go away.
A voice of reason. Sadly you'll be drowned out in a sea of right-wing rhetoric.
It's depressing just how little empathy some people are capable of.
Genuine question - What defines poverty in this country ?
How many children in this country don't have food to eat or a roof over there head - that to me defines poverty something which I'm sure 99.9% of children in the country do not go through.
Genuine answer if like the OP says we help them out and invite all these Immigrants into Britain what will happen to the people on benefits with children.
http://www.independent.co.uk/life-s...-after-parents-benefits-are-cut-10079056.html
foetus
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It's a pretty messed up world. The fact that millions and millions (possibly billions?) have a daily struggle to survive is pretty damn depressing.
Genuine answer if like the OP says we help them out and invite all these Immigrants into Britain what will happen to the people on benefits with children.
http://www.independent.co.uk/life-s...-after-parents-benefits-are-cut-10079056.html
I don't think we would take ALL of them would we? And I suspect once we break the back of the reason why they left, most would want to return home guaranteed that it is safe to do so. As for the education and benefits it will be for a limited time and we could drain the wealthy to pay for it.I may be looking at the situation too simplistically but it's probably the only solution I can see other than struggling to sleep at night thinking I am not doing enough.
marco
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You've no compassion at all that for no fault of their own people would risk their lives and their childrens lives to escape a war torn country? I'm no liberal hand wringer but even I can see the solution isn't to say to these people go away.
last week my mother in law aged 87 collapsed in the street the ambulance did not arrive for over 4 hours further to that she then waited on a hospital bed in the corridor for 13 hours while they tried to get her on a ward which they did in the end 'she had to go in maternity there was no where else available' just an example of the state of our run down overworked NHS and other critical services, this country is at bursting point and its near ready to burst without adding to the problem of letting in thousands of refugees
Genuine answer if like the OP says we help them out and invite all these Immigrants into Britain what will happen to the people on benefits with children.
http://www.independent.co.uk/life-s...-after-parents-benefits-are-cut-10079056.html
I don't think anyone is suggesting we take in "all these" immigrants, just that we should do our bit, along with other European countries, to help avert a humanitarian disaster.
last week my mother in law aged 87 collapsed in the street the ambulance did not arrive for over 4 hours further to that she then waited on a hospital bed in the corridor for 13 hours while they tried to get her on a ward which they did in the end 'she had to go in maternity there was no where else available' just an example of the state of our run down overworked NHS and other critical services, this country is at bursting point and its near ready to burst without adding to the problem of letting in thousands of refugees
I hope she's doing better now mate sorry to hear that.
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Not sure we did all vote Toryas you say each to their own
many of us do not think it's hard line at all
and of course it is not just Cameron lol.....but the government as a whole....the gov't that the majority of the UK voted for
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I agree the NHS is in crisis...seriously worryinglast week my mother in law aged 87 collapsed in the street the ambulance did not arrive for over 4 hours further to that she then waited on a hospital bed in the corridor for 13 hours while they tried to get her on a ward which they did in the end 'she had to go in maternity there was no where else available' just an example of the state of our run down overworked NHS and other critical services, this country is at bursting point and its near ready to burst without adding to the problem of letting in thousands of refugees
I don't think we would take ALL of them would we? And I suspect once we break the back of the reason why they left, most would want to return home guaranteed that it is safe to do so. As for the education and benefits it will be for a limited time and we could drain the wealthy to pay for it.I may be looking at the situation too simplistically but it's probably the only solution I can see other than struggling to sleep at night thinking I am not doing enough.
Who do you say No to? That would help you sleep at night and I'm sure the rich would help out? I think not..