Refugee crisis

He said the only shocking thing about the plight of the young boy was that his mother put him in a boat. And he continues saying it. I think that quite succinctly describes the prick's lack of empathy and sympathy.

As for calling people cunts, I'll do it all day long when a fucking idiot spouts absolute bollocks for attention because his daddy used to ignore him.

Why don't you ignore him too, if you find his opinions so reprehensible?
Continually calling someone a c*** and a prick just because his opinion differs from yours (REGARDLESS of right or wrong) says as much about you as it does about him.

Oh, and don't bother calling me a ****, I already know!
 
Arising out of the Ugandan crisis in the mid 70's;

"Storm Over the Two-Wife Migrants" -- The Sun 6/5/76

"Invasion of Asians Forces Borough to Call for Help" -- Telegraph 6/5/76

"New Flood of Asians to Britain" -- Mirror 6/5/76

"Another 20,000 Asians are on the Way" -- The Sun 6/5/76

"Asians 'trick BR to enter'" -- Mail 8/5/76

"Scandal of Day-Tripper Immigrants" -- Mirror 8/5/76

"'Queue Jumping' Rumpus" -- Express 8/5/76

"Banda's Asians Fly In" -- News of the World 9/5/76

"Refused Welfare -- but 'I'll settle for council house'" -- Express 10/5/76

"Asians fly out of 'New Uganda'" -- The Sun 17/5/76

"Mellish cries 'Enough' on Asian influx" --Telegraph 18/5/76
 
I've just watched a clip of a guy throwing himself on top of his wife and child onto a railway line in Hungary in a fit of desperate emotion.


It's changed my mind on this ............It's very upsetting and heart breaking. Fuck the cost.
 
Indeed I thought the same thing, refugees crammed on to trains and pregnant women sleeping in the streets with no place to call home except the gutter it's heartbreaking. We signed the Geneva convention after the war to provide a safe haven for refugees and asylum seekers, yet we seem to be doing nothing.

Unfortunately the Geneva Conventions have never been worth the paper they were written on. The UK and USA in particular have been ignoring them since 1946 whenever it suited them. There should have been inbuilt and harsh penalties for not carrying out their obligations.
 
Pictures on Sky News at the moment in Hungary are quite shocking, people lead to trains not knowing where they are going then get ordered to disembark..... Remind you of anything ?????

Maybe I've missed something but are the refugees not welcome in Hungary? There seems to be a huge number trying to board trains to get them to Austria and Germany, is staying in Hungary not an option? Are they being forcibly removed from the country? The other day the Hungarian police were actively preventing refugees from boarding trains in order to leave the country, so it would seem unlikely Hungary is trying to thrown them all out.
 
I've just watched a clip of a guy throwing himself on top of his wife and child onto a railway line in Hungary in a fit of desperate emotion.


It's changed my mind on this ............It's very upsetting and heart breaking. Fuck the cost.


Hungary is perfectly safe and a member of the EU.

These melodramatic people on the tracks are obviously economic migrants, not refugees.

They have already found a safe refuge in Hungary and have no need to travel further.

Budapest is 1200 miles from Syria. Not too many ISIS people about.
 
Maybe I've missed something but are the refugees not welcome in Hungary? There seems to be a huge number trying to board trains to get them to Austria and Germany, is staying in Hungary not an option? Are they being forcibly removed from the country? The other day the Hungarian police were actively preventing refugees from boarding trains in order to leave the country, so it would seem unlikely Hungary is trying to thrown them all out.

They're planning on building a 4 metre high security fence along their border with Serbia and throwing all the Syrians back across the border so No, I wouldn't say staying there is an option. The Germans for once are setting an example here and said they'll take whoever comes and that's where the refugees were trying to get to before some fucking clown in Budapest decided to stop them.
 
Maybe I've missed something but are the refugees not welcome in Hungary? There seems to be a huge number trying to board trains to get them to Austria and Germany, is staying in Hungary not an option? Are they being forcibly removed from the country? The other day the Hungarian police were actively preventing refugees from boarding trains in order to leave the country, so it would seem unlikely Hungary is trying to thrown them all out.
As far as i'm aware if they get to Germany and the documentation is sorted they can go anywhere they want.
Germany might be the first port of call,so to speak.
It would explain why their seems to be a huge number of male adults,get docs sorted then send for the rest of family.
 
As far as i'm aware if they get to Germany and the documentation is sorted they can go anywhere they want.
Germany might be the first port of call,so to speak.
It would explain why their seems to be a huge number of male adults,get docs sorted then send for the rest of family.

I'm not sure what documentation Germany are going to issue them with, but if it's official recognition as an German citizen, or something like that, then you'd suspect Britain will see a number of the refugees arriving here not too long after, as obviously EU citizens have freedom of movement throughout the EU.
 
Maybe I've missed something but are the refugees not welcome in Hungary? There seems to be a huge number trying to board trains to get them to Austria and Germany, is staying in Hungary not an option? Are they being forcibly removed from the country? The other day the Hungarian police were actively preventing refugees from boarding trains in order to leave the country, so it would seem unlikely Hungary is trying to thrown them all out.

I'm a bit confused about this myself, from what I gather its all to do with internal Hungarian politics and he is trying to look good to his electorate and grandstanding, but Hungary does not want or welcome them and wants rid asap, don't ask me why if that's the case they are not letting them on the trains I'm sure in Hungary it all makes sense
 
I'm not sure what documentation Germany are going to issue them with, but if it's official recognition as an German citizen, or something like that, then you'd suspect Britain will see a number of the refugees arriving here not too long after, as obviously EU citizens have freedom of movement throughout the EU.

Or maybe they'll just give them safe haven in reasonable accommodation with medical assistance and exit visas to those that wish to try to gain permanent asylum in another country.
 
Or maybe they'll just give them safe haven in reasonable accommodation with medical assistance and exit visas to those that wish to try to gain permanent asylum in another country.

Possibly, it's unclear at this point exactly what the German authorities intend on doing here. I suspect they wouldn't be looking to offer citizenship as most countries have a fairly lengthy process that has to be undertaken in order to achieve that.
 
Possibly, it's unclear at this point exactly what the German authorities intend on doing here. I suspect they wouldn't be looking to offer citizenship as most countries have a fairly lengthy process that has to be undertaken in order to achieve that.

Either way Britain will see plenty of them documented or not. 'Call me Dave' needs to get his finger out and stop being such a cowardly ****.
 
shame on you

Don't waste your shame on me. It means nothing.

I'm sure you'd don't care for my opinion of you so why do you think I'm worried about what you think of me?

I'm reasonably happy with how things are going.

Cameron might make a small concession but it won't be much.

In general this is all looking very bad for the EU, with a lot of disagreement and disunity between member states. It could be the beginning of the end of it in its current form with a bit of luck, and that'd please me.
 
you're missing his point, he said they were safe in turkey... i dont know if that story is true, however if so Turkey i believe isnt such a bad place to live.
They were in a refugee camp in Turkey but had been issued visas for Canada, as the mother's sister had satisfied the Canadian government's requirements.

However the Turks wouldn't issue them an exit visa or otherwise process the necessary paperwork. So they were trying to get to Greece in order that they could journey on to Canada. And as someone else said, the Turks could quite easily have forced them back into Syria and may have been planning to do so. I don't think I'd want to take that chance.

Similar things happened prior to WWII when Jews trying to flee Germany couldn't get out because the British government wouldn't issue visas unless the German authorities provided exit papers. But the Germans wouldn't provide exit papers unless the British provided visas. So despite having the necessary financial support guaranteed in England, hundreds of thousands were murdered because of wilful bureaucracy.

But it's alright because we took a few hundred kids as a humanitarian gesture, but only one per family. So the few families offered a lifeline had to make a Sophie's Choice decision about which child lived and which would have to face up to whatever fate awaited them (which was almost inevitably a gruesome death).
 
Don't waste your shame on me. It means nothing.

I'm sure you'd don't care for my opinion of you so why do you think I'm worried about what you think of me?

I'm reasonably happy with how things are going.

Cameron might make a small concession but it won't be much.

In general this is all looking very bad for the EU, with a lot of disagreement and disunity between member states. It could be the beginning of the end of it in its current form with a bit of luck, and that'd please me.

Yeah you're right Urmston. Who cares about avoidable deaths of innocents and suffering on an unimaginable scale if you get your little political victory eh?
 
Don't waste your shame on me. It means nothing.

I'm sure you'd don't care for my opinion of you so why do you think I'm worried about what you think of me?

I'm reasonably happy with how things are going.

Cameron might make a small concession but it won't be much.

In general this is all looking very bad for the EU, with a lot of disagreement and disunity between member states. It could be the beginning of the end of it in its current form with a bit of luck, and that'd please me.

see this is where we differ - you are taking delight in this tragedy as it looks bad for the EU - where as others are genuinely upset, sickened and just want these people to be safe and secure
- washed up dead kids on the beach, boats sinking, familys suffocating in backs of lorry's and your 'reasonably happy with how things are going' ?

i'll stop biting now.
 

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