Negativity

[BlumerMooner]

Perspective here ffs!!!

As city fan for 30 years i have had to grow a pair. You have to be an optimist...

However, as a season ticket holder and over a 500 mile round trip...after a performance like that, im aloud a fucking whinge!

Then the next game i support them like my life depends on it...and if they dont get the result it fucking ruins my weekend, then i start all over again!
CTID

 

[Dave Ewing's Back 'eader]

I agree with the OP..the happy clapper tag is fucking ridiculous

Fact of the matter is we are still in 4 competitions..the final of one and yet you read this board you'd think we are in a relegation scrap

The self entitlement is beyond raggish

The problem with 'entitlement' is that with the Rags and Dippers it was entitlement 'per se'! We are red; entitlement comes with being red. Our 'entitlement' is when you see highly expensive players, paid mouthwatering salaries and we get yesterday's performance. We are not entitled to win, but we are entitled to some kind of battling performance. We didn't get it!

I cannot decide where the problem is: do the players collectively or individually not give a chasing fuck, or are they told by Pellers that he wants them to be here or there on the field? Whichever one it is, having paid our money, we are entitled to better.

 

[LadislavMplmx]

I agree with the OP..the happy clapper tag is fucking ridiculous

Fact of the matter is we are still in 4 competitions..the final of one and yet you read this board you'd think we are in a relegation scrap

The self entitlement is beyond raggish

this place goes into meltdown when we draw so the bullshit being spouted is to be expected,half this lot rip the piss out of RAWK & Redcafe too ha

 

[Oyster28catcher]

come on mate. to expect a better performance than yesterday isn't raggish, it's realistic. we should be doing better. the City of ten or fifteen years ago might roll over, the team now, supposedly challenging for 4 trophies, should play slightly fucking better

at least look like they give a shit.

The reality is that we started pittle-poor, we responded reasonably well and couldn't walk past their flat back 8s. Leicester knew once they had the lead, we'd have to attack and they could counter. This technic of frustration has caught us out in I'd say every 90% of the home league defeats under Pellegrini. Why don't we have a plan B, C, D, E etc for it? Why do we resign ourself so soon? We should be performaning in every game home or away. The point I was making is that we're not as doomed as some make out. We need to back the team and manager 100%. Fans were leaving on their droves after 70 minutes. Fight to the end to the car park? Negativity consumes us too often.

 

[Chappie]

It smells of RAG Cafe at the minute...

"But but but but but we're entitled to win"

"We're all doomed"​

"Yaya out"

"Hart will go because Pep mentioned something abiut summat"​

"We'll be lucky to have a team aginst Kiev"

"Our youth will be twatted against Chelsea"​

Yawn..... we're Man City, not FC Priveleged-Invincible Plc.

Usual bullshit,you have a different opinion,your a rag.
No debate No forum
If you don't like differing opinions, go and read a City programme, they toe the party line.

 

[blueinsa]

Its perfectly acceptable to be negative abour a car crash of a performance like yesterday.

Whats needed though is a thorough analaysis of why nd not just the usual, Pellegrini is a **** posts as its boring and fails to realise the real issues this squad has right now.

 

[mancity1]

I think after the start we had this season, the vast majority are going to be extremely disappointed with the way it has turned out.

£140m spent in the summer and we are worse than we were in a season when we were average. We have gone from 2.26 points per game in season 1 under him to 2.07 last season to 1.88 this season (and in the last 20 games it is 1.6) . We have taken 3 points out of 21 against teams in the top 6. That is on a par with what I would expect a relegated side to get.

Pellegrini has been dealt a bad hand injury wise but he isn't at the right level. There has been talk of four competitions but let's face it we are not going to win the premier league this year or the CL. We are not playing well enough. Recent results have papered over the cracks. There is absolutely zero reason to think the Spurs result will be a positive one and we never win at Liverpool away. We need injured players back to make the top 3 in my opinion.

Thankfully the club have finally done something about the fact he isn't good enough.

It's a fairly dramatic decline and would not have improved in fact it would have declined further under MP but that's only part of the reason he had to be replaced.

But like Chelsea will bounce back so will we but we cannot expect domination in this league over an extended period of time.

The days of backing Manure , Us , Chelsea and Arsenal to fill at least the top three positions each year are over.

 

[franksinatra]

I agree with the OP..the happy clapper tag is fucking ridiculous

Fact of the matter is we are still in 4 competitions..the final of one and yet you read this board you'd think we are in a relegation scrap

The self entitlement is beyond raggish

The only entitlement I have ever had is to expect the players to apply themselves and be committed in every game. I cannot remember watching a team with less application, worse players yes, in terrible runs of form but never with less desire.

Spurs, Liverpool and now Leicester have put a shed load of goals against us. Our record against decent teams is appalling. Watching some of the players put in half-hearted challenges and strut around the pitch as if its a testimonial is soul destroying.

MOTD highlighted it perfectly with Drinkwaters run or how Mahrez ran off our midfield for his goal. We are appalling without the ball and its due to a lack of effort.

 

[blueinsa]

The only entitlement I have ever had is to expect the players to apply themselves and be committed in every game. I cannot remember watching a team with less application, worse players yes, in terrible runs of form but never with less desire.

Spurs, Liverpool and now Leicester have put a shed load of goals against us. Our record against decent teams is appalling. Watching some of the players put in half-hearted challenges and strut around the pitch as if its a testimonial is soul destroying.

MOTD highlighted it perfectly with Drinkwaters run or how Mahrez ran off our midfield for his goal. We are appalling without the ball and its due to a lack of effort.

I completely agree.

Shameful performance yesterday, utterly shameful.

 

[mancity1]

Its perfectly acceptable to be negative abour a car crash of a performance like yesterday.

Whats needed though is a thorough analaysis of why nd not just the usual, Pellegrini is a **** posts as its boring and fails to realise the real issues this squad has right now.

This issues are well documented , they are many and varied and its a matter of the weight you wish to apply to each one.

Personally I think that most of our players don't have it in them any more to get the results needed and it wouldn't matter if Pep was in charge of them or not.

They have had the success at a domestic level that more than satisfies their ambition and desire and they know they won't end up at a club and play regularly in a side that will be challenging for European honours or in fact domestic honours even most likely

 

[r.soleofsalford]

Its perfectly acceptable to be negative abour a car crash of a performance like yesterday.

Whats needed though is a thorough analaysis of why nd not just the usual, Pellegrini is a **** posts as its boring and fails to realise the real issues this squad has right now.

Well for a start The Charming man decided we played Demichelis and Kolarov against the fastest forward line in the prem, instead of playing the faster Sagna and Clichy, also played Delph out of position and Yaya in the D/M role most on here think is beyond his energy levels. I cant say it nicer than that

 

[BlumerMooner]

Well for a start The Charming man decided we played Demichelis and Kolarov against the fastest forward line in the prem, instead of playing the faster Sagna and Clichy, also played Delph out of position and Yaya in the D/M role most on here think is beyond his energy levels. I cant say it nicer than that

Spot on!

 

[blueinsa]

Well for a start The Charming man decided we played Demichelis and Kolarov against the fastest forward line in the prem, instead of playing the faster Sagna and Clichy, also played Delph out of position and Yaya in the D/M role most on here think is beyond his energy levels. I cant say it nicer than that

Not one player other than Hart can come off that pitch eysterday and say they gave it everything, not one.

We could have played any formation you care to name yesterday and the outcome would have been the same as the players refuse to do any work off the ball and some wont even do it on the ball these days.

Pellegrini makes mistakes but he is gone come the summer. Pep in cahrge yesterday and we still get stuffed if the players play like they did.

 

[mancity1]

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The only entitlement I have ever had is to expect the players to apply themselves and be committed in every game. I cannot remember watching a team with less application, worse players yes, in terrible runs of form but never with less desire.

Spurs, Liverpool and now Leicester have put a shed load of goals against us. Our record against decent teams is appalling. Watching some of the players put in half-hearted challenges and strut around the pitch as if its a testimonial is soul destroying.

MOTD highlighted it perfectly with Drinkwaters run or how Mahrez ran off our midfield for his goal. We are appalling without the ball and its due to a lack of effort.

This is true buts its also not being organised.

These two basic premises of competitive sport are at the heart of every team that goes onto the field and if its not there you are doomed to fail.

The fact that an organisation like ours can put out a side lacking in these basics tells you a lot about our manager and the players mindset.

It's shameful.

I watched Watford get battered for 94 minutes against Spurs ( I think it was 28 shots to 2 or thereabouts ) but they were organised and on another day could have salvaged a point.

 

[jayblue]

What Pisses me off is the same mistakes are being made every week. Possession possession possession then caught on the counter.
Why don't we mix it a bit with these teams that are tough to break down. How about sit back and invite them on now and then to open them up and catch them on the counter.
Same mistakes. Probably play exactly the same against spurs and get tonked again.
Let's all sit and happy clap and say the yes but look where we were years ago bollocks. We aren't that club anymore.

 

[mancity1]

Not one player other than Hart can come off that pitch eysterday and say they gave it everything, not one.

We could have played any formation you care to name yesterday and the outcome would have been the same as the players refuse to do any work off the ball and some wont even do it on the ball these days.

Pellegrini makes mistakes but he is gone come the summer. Pep in cahrge yesterday and we still get stuffed if the players play like they did.

The question is would they and if so why.

It's more than just the fact that I get an enormous pay check whether i try or not.

 

[Kinkladze 1]

I think the comments are merely a reflection of what the overpaid underworked couldn't give a fuck fuckers on the pitch give us from week to week.

 

[blueinsa]

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This is true buts its also not being organised.

These two basic premises of competitive sport are at the heart of every team that goes onto the field and if its not there you are doomed to fail.

The fact that an organisation like ours can put out a side lacking in these basics tells you a lot about our manager and the players mindset.

It's shameful.

I watched Watford get battered for 94 minutes against Spurs ( I think it was 28 shots to 2 or thereabouts ) but they were organised and on another day could have salvaged a point.

Completely agree.

We bossed possession yesterday and at ahlf time we had completed nearly 300 passess to their 80 yet we where losing 1-0.

Our game right now is completely aimless and lacking in any plan with players literally going through the motions.

Pellegrini is responsible but he is gone so between now and the end of the season, either the players as a collective or those higher up need to make sure they get focused on whats required and do their jobs.

Much has been made of them playing for their futures and wanting to impress Pep yet i get the feeling the majority couldnt give a flying fuck and probably dont fancy the work that will be needed under Pep.

Ferran, Txiki, Khaldoon and Pellegrini need to get a grip of the last few months of this season or it really could end up as a car crash.

 

[yerwot?]

What Pisses me off is the same mistakes are being made every week. Possession possession possession then caught on the counter.
Why don't we mix it a bit with these teams that are tough to break down. How about sit back and invite them on now and then to open them up and catch them on the counter.
Same mistakes. Probably play exactly the same against spurs and get tonked again.
Let's all sit and happy clap and say the yes but look where we were years ago bollocks. We aren't that club anymore.

Couldn't agree more. The team selection seemed wilfully wrong. The performance had similarities to Sven's swansong. Injuries, age haven't helped but MP has not seemed capable or willing to change the record. Roll on next year

 

[richards30]

Well I stayed off the forum last night to try and not over react but have woke this morning still pissed off and fuming!! I can handle in one way getting beat but the way we get beat with no desire, professionalism and pride is atrocious !!! There is a huge problem in the playing side of city at the minute and as I got ridiculed not long ago for saying, I think we will miss out on top 4 as we don't know where our next good performance will come from and there is zero confidence in the squad and I think we all want the season to end now! When you think the buzz at the start of the season getting sterling, de Bruyne , otamendi and Delph and our first five games?? Utter shit and either our training regime or medical department has been equally shite! The amount of muscle injuries has been shocking and that has to be down to the management team for the training or preparation.